Benefits of wearing a helmet

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Oh god yes. I've come a cropper a few times 'cos of that but normally its just my plums that take the hit.:8:

My last two spills were a jumping chain till I eventually got it sorted...It was due to me having to get a new wheel from Evans after the other one fell to bits after 67 miles.:wacko:

Looks like im too fast for my kyboard....
 

dondare

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So.. are you trying to say that it is impossible to injure your head when you fall off a bike. Or that it is only by wearing a helmet that you are likely to hurt your head. Is this really supposed to be evidence of something?
Ah-ha!! "A Straw Man" argument!

No, no-one's saying any such thing.
 
When I first arrived in London I considered myself (at the tender age of 21) to be an experienced, confident and skillful cyclist. I had never even seen a bike helmet before then but some of the London cyclists were wearing what looked like plastic mixing bowls on their heads. I thought they were being silly (they certainly looked silly).

Doesn't look cool enough.BentMikey syndrome?...I suspect some of the problem with Hi-Viz and BM is that you can look a bit of a nerd with Hi-Viz on and you can look pretty cool in lycra and all that racing gear...although lycra does not really turn me on.

Oh yeah...looks silly...that as well..(applies to helmets and Hi_Viz....)

Sorry BM.:whistle:
 
sorry if this has been mentioned already.........But in my opinion.... i never use to wear a helmet, it only since i started taking riding more seriously than a ride to work n back, i have worn one, we all know that wearing one wont always save your life or serious injury, but if i was to have enough of a bad accident where it saved my skull from getting cracked open or removing my scalp from a tarmac burn then im all for it... of course this is my opinion but as i have very little brains any way i cant afford to lose any more.... :-)
 
My mate at work had an accident which needed the help of a helmet which he said saved him from serious? injury...Strangely enough he doesn't wear a helmet now...Weird or what?

I will have to ask him about that again.He's a mad bugger though.
 

dondare

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Doesn't look cool enough.BentMikey syndrome...I suspect some of the problem with Hi_Viz and BM is that you can look a bit of a nerd with Hi-Viz on and you can look pretty cool in lycra and all that racing gear...although lycra does not really turn me on.

Oh yeah...looks silly...that as well..

Sorry BM.:whistle:

30 years ago bike helmets were rare enough, and unsophisticated enough, to look totally uncool. My description of them looking like a plastic mixing bowl worn on the head is pretty accurate. Not much Lycra around then, either. Or bents. How times have changed.
 
30 years ago bike helmets were rare enough, and unsophisticated enough, to look totally uncool. My description of them looking like a plastic mixing bowl worn on the head is pretty accurate. Not much Lycra around then, either. Or bents. How times have changed.

Hmmmm bit sidetracked there although the post has since been edited...I was actually trying to make a point.I remember cycle helmets from 30 years ago...they were those leather things....although I was young then and when I did get injured I did heal up fast.So a helmet never crossed my mind.I think im more paranoid now as I have very little hair which has sort of changed my opinion....I usually wear something on my head when I can.
 

dondare

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Hmmmm bit sidetracked there although the post has since been edited...I was actually trying to make a point.I remember cycle helmets from 30 years ago...they were those leather things....although I was young then and when I did get injured I did heal up fast.So a helmet never crossed my mind.I think im more paranoid now as I have very little hair which has sort of changed my opinion....I usually wear something on my head when I can.

You're thinking about the "hairnets" worn by racing cyclists, a sort of padded scrum-cap. The old mixing bowls were worn by commuters and originated in America. This was before mountain biking took off but I think that the legislation-conscious Merrycans had started wearing ice-hocky helmets on their bikes and someone spotted a market.
 

dondare

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Wore my helmet this afternoon - it felt good...protective, almost Cocoonish (and yes I am talking about the brillant 80's film).
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IIRC the aliens wore skin suits but not helmets.
 

ferret fur

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Ah-ha!! "A Straw Man" argument!

No, no-one's saying any such thing.

Not so fast Moriaty....

The Straw Man argument is showing a video of people falling off bikes and not hurting their heads. I'll say again. What is this supposed to prove.

Look. Nobody (sensible) is saying that helmets are 100% effective or that getting on a bike is like firing up the Merlin's on your Avro Lanacaster before a trip to the Ruhr. It is all about relative risk and whether this justifies wearing a helmet. I think, based on what I see as a cyclist, that it does. It is all about relative risk. I also think that overall people do overestimate the dangers of cycling and overestimate the protection afforded by a helmet. However the anti-helmet viewpoint takes the opposing view to extremes. One of those is the 'cycling is so safe it is ridiculous to consider wearing one.' This is why I challenge the line about walking being more dangerous than cycling. It just ain't so.

Incidentally I notice that an awful lot of people who use the cycling is so safe line when it comes to helmets don't seem to apply it to discussions about speeding motorists, badly designed cyclepaths or close overtakes. Why bother to get exited by these things if overall it doesn't matter? Cycling is safe: Drive at whatever speed you like why doncha?
 
I agree and will still say that cycling isn't safe when morons drive tin boxes....did anyone notice my two incidents recently where luck played a part (and not a helmet)...If I had been unluckier I would have just been a yet another cycling statistic.Oh and I very much doubt that I would collide with a landrover or lorry while making sandwiches in my kitchen...although yes I suppose it would be possible if I lived in the fast lane of the M4.
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
just to maintain my deja vu.

I dont wear one, it is a social and comercial pressure, they not only look daft, but they do not look like they offer any protection, they are hard to fit and uncomfortable once you have manage to get it to stop sliding around, I am continuing my reserach in to skater/snow boarding helmets.

Do these helmet threads come once a week and then suddenly two come together (ooer)
 

AnotherEye

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I wear a helmet as I fear that one time when I'll need one and i feel it makes (some) drivers take me more seriously and give me more room or hang back as i'm unlikely to be an obstruction for long. I may be wrong.
The only research that I'm aware of on this aspect refutes your belief: "Drivers pass closer when overtaking cyclists wearing helmets than when overtaking bare-headed cyclists, increasing the risk of a collision, the research has found". So feeling safer is not the same as being safer.
Let's face it, in some circumstances a helmet will prevent serious injury and in other circumstances it may be a contributory factor towards injury (as another poster has commented "Cycle helmets are not designed to mitigate rotational injuries, and research has not shown them to be effective in doing so. To the contrary, some doctors have expressed concern that cycle helmets might make some injuries worse by converting direct (linear) forces to rotational ones").
Cycling is safe; the danger comes from the minority of motorists who disrespect the Highway Code. In my opinion; a hi-viz top is a far better investment than an helmet but we do not get endless threads about them.
 
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