Beer?

[MossCommuter]

Dipa v7 (Cloudwater, 9% abv)
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Well, this feels slightly like I'm in the presence of beer royalty. Firstly, it has a wonderful aroma - very fresh and something of a mix between floral and citrus. The relatively high abv is noticeable in the taste, bringing a spirit like burn (not as strong as that, but that kind of feeling). The taste is citrus, peppery and that bit of sweet burn, along with an underlying bitterness that is hard to place flavour wise.

Describing a beer like this is dancing about architecture - it's complex, and delicious and terribly difficult to pin down in text.

Mrs M says: "I have gone out!"

My v9 is chilling for tomorrow afternoon

 

[theclaud]

Take out. I narrowly made last orders.

 

[Maverick Goose]

I had a Happy Buddha with my noodles in Wagamama at lunchtime, then I left in the company of two gay men and we went to Dark Star's The Anchor Tap. One had a peach sour beer which was lovely, the other had a Tax Evasion Lager which wasn't whilst I, as a RSBB, had a half of the very good Siren Broken Dreams Breakfast Stout. I planned on a second half of another stout, the 360 degree, assuming them to be somewhat effete and thus slow in sinking pints but alas they downed theirs faster than I drank mine.

Am sat now on a cold and wet and lonely station platform in Ifield, Crawley, dreaming of the M&S Spiced porter that is in the fridge. Hope it goes with beans on toast.

Crawley on a rainy day huh?.....

My v9 is chilling for tomorrow afternoon

Patience Glasshopper!

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Crawley on a rainy day huh?.....

If you know Crawley then you know the down side platform at Ifield, at night, is no place for a person to find themselves alone.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

This

Do NOT touch it with a barge poll. Neither spiced enough (Allspice and Cinnamon according to the label) to be interesting, nor Porter-y enough to be a good porter. Really thin and lacking in body for a 5.5% beer.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Some of those breweries saw M&S coming.

I've found a lot of Greenwich Meantime stuff just isn't up to the mark anymore. Don't know if it is me, or if the product has changed.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Isn't the phrase Sold Out?

But the bigged up their claims that the quality of the product would not be diluted.

Then again I larfed out loud when the head man at Fullers called his outfit a Craft Brewer on Radio Four last week.

 

[threebikesmcginty]

Molto bene, well okish...

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Well quite, doesn't craft beer have an accepted upper limit for volume?

Is there an accepted definition?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

According to Wikipedia it is 18,000 hectoliter. If you don't accept that, I'll log in and change it for you. Fullers are only roughly double that figure.


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As craft beer is a ghastly Americanism I think we must defer to the Yanks who go with "small, independent and traditional" I think Fullers score two from three. But less than 6 million barrels a year is still a heck of a lot of beer from a small brewer. So maybe Fullers get a full house?

These make for an interesting read (I thought)

https://www.brewersassociation.org/statistics/craft-brewer-defined/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...s-craft-beer-depends-on-whom-you-ask/1566338/

 

[MossCommuter]

For study purposes (compare and contrast) I prefaced version 9 with one of the last bottles of v8 which is this:

Which I still like with its super bitter marmalade tartness even if it is a bit fizzy.

Anyway, here's version 9:

The more observant amongst us will immediately notice it's clear. The bubbles are bigger too which probably goes some way to explain the sharper, crisper taste. This one's piney, rubber bandy, loo cleanery.

In the pub I'm in a minority of one in saying I preferred v8. It's good, there's a fag paper between um but I think I do prefer v8.

 

[srw]

As craft beer is a ghastly Americanism I think we must defer to the Yanks who go with "small, independent and traditional" I think Fullers score two from three. But less than 6 million barrels a year is still a heck of a lot of beer from a small brewer. So maybe Fullers get a full house?

These make for an interesting read (I thought)

https://www.brewersassociation.org/statistics/craft-brewer-defined/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...s-craft-beer-depends-on-whom-you-ask/1566338/

According to that first link, 6 million barrels is 3% of the US market. I'd be gobsmacked if Fuller's (the apostrophe's there in their logo) made more than 3% of the UK beer brewed.

Unlike several of the most well-known "craft" names, Fuller's haven't gone in search of international mega-money, haven't travelled the road of fancy-dan mouth-puckering hops, and have focussed on what they do well, with an intelligent tip of the hat in the shape of Honeydew to the lager generation. It's easy for those of us in easy reach of London to forget that Fuller's is essentially a regional operation. http://www.fullers.co.uk/pubs/pub-finder

 

[GrumpyGregry]

According to that first link, 6 million barrels is 3% of the US market. I'd be gobsmacked if Fuller's (the apostrophe's there in their logo) made more than 3% of the UK beer brewed.

Unlike several of the most well-known "craft" names, Fuller's haven't gone in search of international mega-money, haven't travelled the road of fancy-dan mouth-puckering hops, and have focussed on what they do well, with an intelligent tip of the hat in the shape of Honeydew to the lager generation. It's easy for those of us in easy reach of London to forget that Fuller's is essentially a regional operation. http://www.fullers.co.uk/pubs/pub-finder

But that's another reason why they aren't craft brewers, hardly any innovation, which doesn't all have to be of the excess hop variety. I suspect they are a property company, that owns restaurants, that sell beer, in London and the SE.

 

[threebikesmcginty]

I like Fuller's, they make some decent beer, make some good specials too. You don't have to be innovative to be a good brewer you just have to make good beer.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I like Fuller's, they make some decent beer, make some good specials too. You don't have to be innovative to be a good brewer you just have to make good beer.

I agree. But being a good brewer doesn't make you a Craft Brewer.