Miquel In De Rain
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A flash from a taxi driver has got to be worth 1000 points.
BBC helmet cam film to explore cyclist-motorist conflict
- Thread starter Mr Haematocrit
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bicyclos
Part time Anorak
- Location
- West Yorkshire
The bolded bit is definitely not cyclecraft, rather the opposite. Cyclecraft is closer to the rest of your paragraph.
Strangly enough I have never read Cyclecraft or intend to. I think 30yrs on the motorcycle has given me good road sense adjusted for the bicycle, or I hope so. Nothing is guaranteed though......
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
except death and taxes, or if you are on a bike- death by taxis
BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
- Location
- South London
I also have quite a lot of motorcycle and car mileage, and it certainly helps loads. Cyclecraft and bikeability instructor training expanded on that to some degree, mind.
campbellab
Senior Member
- Location
- Swindon
“The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.”
gaz
Cycle Camera TV
- Location
- South Croydon
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, but what we know for sure that just ain't so."
cd365
Guru
- Location
- Coventry, uk
I cannot work out the obsession some people have on this forum with Cyclecraft. Most people will not have heard of it at all and as far as I'm aware it has no standing in the law at all but is recommended reading for Bikability training. So IMHO quoting primary/secondary at a motorist is pointless. It should be in the Highway Code and I'm surprised it isn't, does anyone know if the government are being pressurised into including it and possibly including questions on a cyclists road positioning in the Theory Test all new drivers have to take?
BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
- Location
- South London
Once you know the smallest amount about good cycling, you'll realise this is a totally specious argument.
Nothing in cyclecraft relies on any motorist knowing anything about it at all. Why would you even think that? Cyclecraft is all about altering your own riding to compensate for what motorists do, be it the instinctive stuff, the good practice based on the highway code, or even their mistakes.
gaz
Cycle Camera TV
- Location
- South Croydon
In some cases the same thing can be said about discussing things with cyclists.2227934 said:
TheLondonCyclist
Guest
The cyclist is illegally undertaking. You're supposed to go around them.
benborp
Guru
- Location
- further from Penge
It's not illegal. It's perfectly acceptable for a cyclist to filter to the left of stationary traffic.
deptfordmarmoset
Full time tea drinker
- Location
- Armonmy Way
If undertaking were illegal, what would the point of bus lanes be?
Matthew_T
"Young and Ex-whippet"
- Location
- Prestatyn, North Wales
The areguement there would be that the buses can stop in it without blocking the flow of traffic. However, if there was a traffic jam, it would be illegal for the bus to drive down the lane passing the stuck cars, so the bus would end up blocking the bus lane.
This is the reason it is not illegal to undertake (and I think that because a bus lane has a solid line, buses are allowed to undertake cars).
gaz
Cycle Camera TV
- Location
- South Croydon
I would say it's more to do with the rules which are applied to the motorways and when you are allowed to pass other vehicles on the left in those situations rather than about it being a solid line, as all that indicates is that it is a bus lane.
