BBC helmet cam film to explore cyclist-motorist conflict

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BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
Car crash TV - watched half of it - think the rest needs a bottle of wine before hand. Not seen trafficdroid's contribution yet :wacko:
I think you'll need more than a bottle to watch trafficdroids main contribution, unfortunately it was an incident where many other YouTubers condemned him for piss poor road positioning, he was lane splitting and then after the incident he had a massive road rage fit. Note the overtake by the van with trailer was outrageously dangerous but if trafficdroid had been in a lane it would not have occurred.
 
Sorry,misunderstood you.
This Gaz fella,strange name for parents to give an offspring,sets out looking for trouble,& is shocked when he finds it,absolutely crapping himself when he gets the reaction that he pushes so hard for,'I have got a helmet cam',right ,so this makes him superman.He is no better,or worse,than the jerk in the silver car.
You're rude, and you're wrong.
 

Davidsw8

Senior Member
Location
London
So, I missed this last night and will see if I can catch it on iPlayer later. I'm gathering from the chat here that I may not like the portrayal of cyclists shown though?
 

Davidsw8

Senior Member
Location
London
[QUOTE 2190915, member: 1314"]By nature of the videos themselves and the “type” of person who uses them – mainly men – they’re not really representative of the London cycling community. I don’t mean the cycling cam-corder men are bad because they are cam-corder men – I love Gaz, BentMikey and Origamist and consider them great cycling role models who care about, and work for, London cycling – just that they are not really representative of the wider London cycling community. In fairness, if I think about my route, SW London ‘burbs/CS7 which I know very well, blokes are probably representative of about 2/3s of the commuting cyclists.

And the videos are edited for the dramatic bits – the incidents etc, so given with the kind of rider who uses them they do give a skewed picture of what the London roads are actually like. I assert confidently that London roads are safer then those in the countryside or in the ‘burbs, and on days off, I actually choose to cycle in London to relax, rather than head for the Surrey Hills or whatever.

I get the programme was as much about the novelty of cycling cam-corders as anything – that novelty bundled into a war/road-space package to theme it and sell it. I think it’s time, with the London cycling boom, that there was a thoughtful, insightful documentary about London cycling aimed at all ages – get the kids cycling to schools, Sunday pashley occasional, the Velodromists etc – showing how SAFE, liberating , efficient and fun cycling in London actually is. Perhaps that’s something LCC or CTC should put their weight behind.[/quote]

There are definitely some cycle camera guys around that are very militant and I guess it's good to have an extreme counterbalance to every kind of behaviour, i.e. the motorists who are militantly anti-cyclist, so I get your point that a lot of the footage won't depict your average cyclist.

However, it's surprising just how many cyclists are using cameras these days who are just your standard commuter pootling along to work and back. Both me and my partner have cameras, I upload the bad incidents to Youtube when I've either made a complaint or to highlight something particularly stupid or unusual.

He never uploads his to the web but will send copies to the companies of people who have done something stupid, i.e. one guy in a van who sped past him to run a red light and swerving violently in the road ahead to miss another vehicle coming from the side on green.

We won't get the notoriety of other camera cyclists as our footage isn't quite so dramatic (even though the above example looked a bit hairy)... and long may it remain that way!
 

jarlrmai

Veteran
So it did what I thought it would do, it essentially managed to create the dichotomy that if someone comes across as "smug" or and "arse" however they edit them, it suddenly makes the act of endangering them equal to the crime of their perceived attitude. This was the only way it could portray some sort of "war" between cyclists riding correctly to the law and the people that endanger was by making this comparison.
 
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