Armstrong charged and banned

[albion]

"USADA received much of the same information from this intermediary "

Lots of wheeling and dealing results makes for performing seals.

 

[yello]

Everything they are doing smacks of absolute desperation.

It is incredible isn't it? You read McQuaid/UCI's letters and they just come across as ill considered rant. You can mentally see him at his desk with the dictaphone in hand spouting diatribe for some poor secretary to type up. Compare that to the measured tones from USADA and you can just feel the differences in confidence. McQuaid makes it easy to make him look like a chump, it's shooting fish in a barrel for USADA.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

If nothing else comes out of this, it should at least prompt a changing of the guard at the UCI, with those who know what's good for cycling for the future (basically those of the Vaughters school of thought) replacing the dinosaurs (represented by McQuaid, Roche et al.).

 

[yello]

Didn't Vaughters once talk of a breakaway league?

 

[Chuffy]

Didn't Vaughters once talk of a breakaway league?

Yes. No. Sort of. Maybe. You know how shifty he can be sometimes...

 

[yello]

As an interesting aside, perhaps people recall UCIs threat to sue Landis. Well, seemingly they are trying/tried. I was just reading through Pat McQuaid's letters to WADA & USADA when I came across this gem....

It is correct that the UCI sued Mr Landis but then for the fact that he accused the UCI of having concealed a positive test, which is not true. The UCI did not sue Mr Landis for what he said on the subject of other persons.In the latter case Mr Landis has until now avoided the summons to be served upon him.

From http://www.scribd.com/doc/102482392/Fat-Pat-Letter-to-Bock

(Be warned, if you choose to read the letter, McQuaid has a real scatter-gun, rambling style and it doesn't always seem to make sense. But, to be fair, he is advancing an argument and does address issues - it's just a shame he's not been able to present it all in a more coherent manner. Again to be fair, I suspect time has not been on his side)

 

[yello]

On a more substantive issue, and from the same letter linked to above, comes this rather juvenile (imo) statement...

We also find it important that current cycling is clean and in this respect we regret that USADA probably allowed riders that admitted doping to participate in the Tour de France,even if the facts that they allegedly testified upon date from many years ago

Clearly McQuaid is referring to testimony which he hasn't seen and assuming that riders have admitted to doping. Not a wise thing to put into an official letter methinks - leads to questions like 'what gives you reason to assume that?' being asked.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

Clearly McQuaid is referring to testimony which he hasn't seen and assuming that riders have admitted to doping. Not a wise thing to put into an official letter methinks - leads to questions like 'what gives you reason to assume that?' being asked.

And given that his main (incorrect) argument is that USADA don't have jurisdiction, it is particularly odd that he is here claiming that they should have taken action on these issues earlier...

 

[yello]

From http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycl...a-hearing-jurisdiction-due-process/56930568/1

Armstrong had faced a Monday deadline to decide whether to take his case to arbitration, but USADA agreed to extend the deadline to Aug. 23 while his lawsuit is pending.

My guess? Judge Sparks has suggested USADA extend their deadline whilst he prepares his response. USADA don't want/need to upset the courts and can wait.

 

[yello]

From a McQuaid press conference....

This affair is a trial in the court of public opinion and that's not fair or just. I'm in no way trying to save Lance Armstrong's skin, in any way. The question at stake is that the authority of the UCI as an international federation and my colleagues by what is going on here with USADA and the support of WADA."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-im-not-trying-to-save-lance-armstrongs-skin

....and also apparently

McQuaid asked if it's a WADA/USADA witch hunt against Armstrong: "Yep. And they’re prepared to bend rules to ensure that it’s done."

https://en.twitter.com/dnlbenson/status/233993321318580226

 

[rich p]

McQuaid is just making a complete fool of himself.

 

[raindog]

Hasn't he always?

 

[86TDFWinner]

Armstrongs's legal team and UCI seem to be offering themselves up on a daily basis for a fresh kicking. Can they really be that stupid or incompetent?

Yes, LA brought this all on himself with his arrogance & his "you cant bust me" attitude. besides, didn't he just claim a few months back that if the USADA brought charges against him, he wouldnt fight them? seems someone cant stop lying.

It doesn't even seem to be successful as a tactic for stringing things out and forcing USADA to a) reveal evidence and b) spend extra money.

he doesnt care...as long as his secret doesnt become exposed, he'll stop at nothing to make sure that doesnt happen.

Everything they are doing smacks of absolute desperation.

Of course it does, good luck trying to reason with an idiot.

 

[86TDFWinner]

McQuaid is just making a complete fool of himself.

Yes, yes he is......

 

[86TDFWinner]

So much for him "not fighting any charges the USADA bring against him"......what a phoney.



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