Armstrong charged and banned

[yello]

And what is even neater is that Bill Stapleton helped draw up those guidelines! Talk about being hoist by your own petard.

Indeed. So, yes, you can say (at a stretch) that not only did he agree to the rules, he was probably party to drawing them up. It's pure poetry.

 

[Red Light]

You didn't pay any attention to what Chuffy actually wrote, did you? What he said was simply factually correct. What you are saying is just overheated rhetoric.

Its factually correct is it that the USADA will get Lance Armstrong? I would regard that as speculation but Chuffy seems to regard it as fact even before the evidence has been heard. Now who wasn't paying attention to what he wrote?

 

[totallyfixed]

Thanks guys for keeping this going, it's a lot easier to keep up to date than going in to the Clinic [I'm clearly not well] a couple of times per week and sifting through the spaghetti and dross of the thousands of postings there have been on the LA thread.
Slightly OT but just maybe connected, has anyone noticed on the TdF how some of the usual suspects are not going as well as might be expected?

 

[yello]

I suspect Armstrong will re-file. The case wasn't thrown out, just knocked back on procedural grounds; the complaint document was meant to be brief, to summarise the main arguments in a concise manner. The judge didn't look at the case on its merits.

So will Armstrong ask USADA for an extension? Will Team Armstrong file a bullet point complaint to the court pronto? Or take their 20 days to do so? All entertaining stuff.

 

[Red Light]

It does seem a bit strange that they should post such vague information on their website, but you're clutching at straws if you think that damages their credibility.

d.

I don't think anybody can damage WADA's credibility - its too damaged already. Dick Pound made sure of that. The Landis outcome was the right result for the wrong reason thanks to a massively incompetent French lab and leaks to the media. Which is a shame as we really need good unimpeachable enforcement against drug taking in sport.

But so which year was EPO first banned seeing a WADA don't seem sure?

 

[smutchin]

IIRC it was banned in 1992, just before the Barcelona Olympics.

 

[Crackle]

I suspect Armstrong will re-file. The case wasn't thrown out, just knocked back on procedural grounds; the complaint document was meant to be brief, to summarise the main arguments in a concise manner. The judge didn't look at the case on its merits.

So will Armstrong ask USADA for an extension? Will Team Armstrong file a bullet point complaint to the court pronto? Or take their 20 days to do so? All entertaining stuff.

He's running out of time. Unless he can make a successful challenge before the USADA hearing starts he's stuffed, I'm not sure a court will interfere at that point, bearing in mind USADA proceedings are already sanctioned by Congress and partly government funded.

 

[Chuffy]

I don't think anybody can damage WADA's credibility - its too damaged already. Dick Pound made sure of that. The Landis outcome was the right result for the wrong reason thanks to a massively incompetent French lab and leaks to the media. Which is a shame as we really need good unimpeachable enforcement against drug taking in sport

I like their credibility.
Unimpeachable? Go on, tell us that USADA is corrupt, because they're the ones kicking Lance squarely in his ball.

But so which year was EPO first banned seeing a WADA don't seem sure?

You really don't want to acknowledge that it was banned before 1999. Why is this such a problem for you?

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

I like their credibility.
Unimpeachable? Go on, tell us that USADA is corrupt, because they're the ones kicking Lance squarely in his ball.


You really don't want to acknowledge that it was banned before 1999. Why is this such a problem for you?

hahaha very good.

 

[Dave Davenport]

I think I might register an internet domain name; www.livestrongindependenttriathlonassociation.com

 

[Chuffy]

I think I might register an internet domain name; www.livestrongindependenttriathlonassociation.com

You might just get away with it, after all, his lawyers are kind of busy going through their submission with a bottle of Tippex and a red pen.

 

[john duley]

After all his "Livestrong" campaigns will powerful American interests put pressure on USDA to quietly drop this case?

 

[Cheddar George]

"powerful American interests" ...... tell me more.

 

[smutchin]

I bet Lance's lawyers know the exact date, if not the hour, EPO was banned.

d.

 

[threebikesmcginty]

You might just get away with it, after all, his lawyers are kind of busy going through their submission with a bottle of Tippex and a red pen.

Bucket of Tippex and a paint roller more like!