(the least said about that match the better
)French rugby commentators were accusing (more or less openly) the England squad of bulking up on steroids years ago.
Armstrong charged and banned
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)French rugby commentators were accusing (more or less openly) the England squad of bulking up on steroids years ago.
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I'd like to think that amongst the did/didn't that there is some discussion that people find informative. Or perhaps I'm being naive.
Personally, I like discussion. Facts exist in a time and a place, a context, and as such are open to interpretation and perception. Simply put, people see things differently. I like the debate inspired by differences of opinion.
Personally, I like discussion. Facts exist in a time and a place, a context, and as such are open to interpretation and perception. Simply put, people see things differently. I like the debate inspired by differences of opinion.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hincapie-leipheimer-vande-velde-zabriskie-opted-out-of-olympics
There's 4 who have strangely opted out of the Olympic selection process. Hmmmm!
There's 4 who have strangely opted out of the Olympic selection process. Hmmmm!
Perhaps they are worried about having their image tarnished by being though of as dopers for taking part in competitive cycling.
Get,the ketchup ready, I reckon you may be needing it.
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Testimony adds weight to Hamilton's confession ... Hincapie told the grand jury that he and Armstrong supplied each other with EPO "
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-hincapie-tells-fda-armstrong-took-peds
More for the 'cos we know' crowd. Anyone know if Hincapie gave evidence?
Funnily enough, is not British cycling so successful because they heavily went into the intelligent sports science route?
If as said most professional cyclists are domestic labourer types then success was easy for them.
Or do they all cheat too?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-hincapie-tells-fda-armstrong-took-peds
More for the 'cos we know' crowd. Anyone know if Hincapie gave evidence?
Funnily enough, is not British cycling so successful because they heavily went into the intelligent sports science route?
If as said most professional cyclists are domestic labourer types then success was easy for them.
Or do they all cheat too?
I nearly spat my coffee out then.
Careful there, that's an older report, following Hamilton's appearance on US TV (the CBS News '60 Minutes' program)
Hinchcapie subsequently categorically denied speaking to '60 Minutes'. Note the italics: he did not specifically deny speaking to the feds/grand jury/USADA. Truth is, we the public don't know even though it is widely assumed he did. Clearly, his testimony would not only carry a deal of weight but also be a major hurdle for the Armstrong defence team should he indicate the he saw Armstrong dope. What could they claim was Hinchcapie's motivation?
Forgetting Wiggins on this thread as a bit of a red herring - can you clarify your position re Armstrong's alleged doping?
You think he did dope, you don't know, you don't care?
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I have neither the knowledge nor prior (to 1997/98) the interest in cycle racing.
Initially I watched TdeF on Channel 4 in the 80s/90s because of the the lovely French countryside and architecture.
After LA won the world championship in Oslo (when I was living here) in 1993, I became more interested in him as a cyclist, then a recoverer of cancer, and then as a multiple TdeF winner.
I wasn't a fan, as such: I also liked Pantani, Ullrich, Voigt and the British riders at that time.
I don't believe LA has doped. I hope he hasn't. I don't know, and I do care.
What I don't like is the allegations, the rumours, the 'guilty before trial' opinions of other people. It's basically gossip and speculation, and until the truth comes out once and for all, I'm happy to maintain my opinion that he is innocent. If, however, he is exposed as a drug cheat, then I'll just say, well, fukk my old boots, he fooled me, too!
I do hope that the sport rids itself of drug cheats and becomes clean and honourable
Initially I watched TdeF on Channel 4 in the 80s/90s because of the the lovely French countryside and architecture.
After LA won the world championship in Oslo (when I was living here) in 1993, I became more interested in him as a cyclist, then a recoverer of cancer, and then as a multiple TdeF winner.
I wasn't a fan, as such: I also liked Pantani, Ullrich, Voigt and the British riders at that time.
I don't believe LA has doped. I hope he hasn't. I don't know, and I do care.
What I don't like is the allegations, the rumours, the 'guilty before trial' opinions of other people. It's basically gossip and speculation, and until the truth comes out once and for all, I'm happy to maintain my opinion that he is innocent. If, however, he is exposed as a drug cheat, then I'll just say, well, fukk my old boots, he fooled me, too!
I do hope that the sport rids itself of drug cheats and becomes clean and honourable
I think in all likelihood that LA did dope, as I think it's inconceivable that someone so competitive would have sat back and watched those around him gain a 5 % advantage. My position is that he still beat them all on a -relatively -level playing field and we should cut the guy some slack in recognition for his achievements, both on and off the bike.
That's a really nice way to ease yourself into following bike racing. Every year the French commentators stress that there are two Tours - one is the race, and the other is the three week trip round the French countryside, villages and towns.
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Say what you like about him but he was a good musician.
Oh wait that was Louis Armstrong.
My view of the whole LA affair
Oh wait that was Louis Armstrong.
My view of the whole LA affair
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