Armstrong Acolytes...

[raindog]

Come on lads, stop trekkin' about

 

[johnnyh]

As a special treat today I rode my Trek on the commute... lovely

 

[ufkacbln]

Have a Trek. One that has a sticker to proclaim Trek as 7 times TDF champion on the seat tube. This is no longer the case.

Actually one of the lies being paraded by USADA they don't have the authority to do so, and the titles at this point in time are still in place.

The UCI may (or may not) remove the titles, but they are waiting to see the USADA evidence before deciding

 

[Hacienda71]

If anyone has a Trek they would like to get rid of, I would be more than willing to dipose of it for you, no questions asked.

 

[Herbie]

Even though I'm an ex-fanboy I never ever felt the need to own any item on that list.

me too

 

[StuAff]

Actually one of the lies being paraded by USADA they don't have the authority to do so, and the titles at this point in time are still in place.

The UCI may (or may not) remove the titles, but they are waiting to see the USADA evidence before deciding

And none of that makes a difference to whether or not I want to own a Trek. The bike's staying and so is the sticker.

 

[mickle]

Actually one of the lies being paraded by USADA they don't have the authority to do so, and the titles at this point in time are still in place.

The UCI may (or may not) remove the titles, but they are waiting to see the USADA evidence before deciding

You couldn't be more wrong One of the lies being pedalled by Armstrong is that the USADA doesn't have the authority to remove his titles. Evert time he signed into race control he signed up to the WADA rules and regulations. The WADA doesn't need the UCIs permission. As you'll soon discover.

 

[festival]

If I hadn't lost it, I'd continue to wear my wristband. Even if he'd cheated at every single race I still think that the livestrong foundation does good work.

What exactly does it do?

 

[Red Light]

You couldn't be more wrong One of the lies being pedalled by Armstrong is that the USADA doesn't have the authority to remove his titles. Evert time he signed into race control he signed up to the WADA rules and regulations. The WADA doesn't need the UCIs permission. As you'll soon discover.

Actually I think its Amaury Sports Organisation that runs the race and awards the winners that makes the decision. They have said they are currently waiting for USADA and UCI to sort out their jurisdictional dispute on the decision before doing anything. But its a bit moot anyway because last time UCI and ASO locked horns over control of the TdeF, ASO came out on top. So I suspect at the end of the day the decision will be ASOs who will be massively torn between getting rid of a pesky non-French winner they never did like and having a race which has no winner for seven years.

 

[montage]

If anyone has a Trek they would like to get rid of, I would be more than willing to dipose of it for you, no questions asked.

walk from chesire to inverness. Thats a trek

 

[ufkacbln]

You couldn't be more wrong One of the lies being pedalled by Armstrong is that the USADA doesn't have the authority to remove his titles. Evert time he signed into race control he signed up to the WADA rules and regulations. The WADA doesn't need the UCIs permission. As you'll soon discover.

Are you not a little confused?

If we will soon discover, that is the future tense?

At this time the titles have not been removed....... or are you going to categorically say that they have?

 

[raindog]

I thought we had a specific thread for this stuff

 

[yello]

I have some Nike bibs and overshoes. Both are decent kit. There's even a label in them that says they were made by Lance....

 

[Mr Haematocrit]

According to the John Fahey, the president of WADA:

"I am confident and WADA is confident that the USADA acted within the WADA code, and that a court in Texas also decided not to interfere," Fahey said in a telephone interview. "They now have the right to apply a penalty that will be recognized by all WADA code countries around the world."
http://www.greenwichtime.com/sports...tance-raises-questions-on-charges-3811670.php
And according to the WADA Code, it is the responsibility of international organizations:

20.3.9 To vigorously pursue all potential anti-doping rule violations within its jurisdiction including investigation into whether Athlete Support Personnel or other Persons may have been involved in each case of doping.
20.3.12 To cooperate with relevant national organizations and agencies and other Anti-Doping Organizations.
http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/W...DP-The-Code/WADA_Anti-Doping_CODE_2009_EN.pdf

So according to WADA, the USADA does have the right to impose penalties and the UCI is bound by the WADA Code to comply with their findings. They can, of course, appeal to The Court of Arbitration for Sport. And they almost certainly will.

 

[mickle]

Are you not a little confused?

If we will soon discover, that is the future tense?

At this time the titles have not been removed....... or are you going to categorically say that they have?

No confusion at all. Read this from the USADA:

The anti-doping rule violations for which Mr. Armstrong is being sanctioned are:

(1) Use and/or attempted use of prohibited substances and/or methods including EPO, blood transfusions, testosterone, corticosteroids and masking agents.

(2) Possession of prohibited substances and/or methods including EPO, blood transfusions and related equipment (such as needles, blood bags, storage containers and other transfusion equipment and blood parameters measuring devices), testosterone, corticosteroids and masking agents.

(3) Trafficking of EPO, testosterone, and corticosteroids.

(4) Administration and/or attempted administration to others of EPO, testosterone, and cortisone.

(5) Assisting, encouraging, aiding, abetting, covering up and other complicity involving one or more anti-doping rule violations and/or attempted anti-doping rule violations.

These activities are defined as anti-doping rule violations under the USADA Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing, the United States Olympic Committee National Anti-Doping Policies, USA Cycling rules and the International Cycling Union (UCI) Anti-Doping Rules (UCI ADR), all of which have adopted the World Anti-Doping Code (Code) and the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Prohibited List.

In accordance with the Code, aggravating circumstances including involvement in multiple anti-doping rule violations and participation in a sophisticated doping scheme and conspiracy as well as trafficking, administration and/or attempted administration of a prohibited substance or method, justify a period of ineligibility greater than the standard sanction. Accordingly, Mr. Armstrong has received a lifetime period of ineligibility for his numerous anti-doping rule violations, including his involvement in trafficking and administering doping products to others. A lifetime period of ineligibility as described in the Code prevents Mr. Armstrong from participating in any activity or competition organized by any signatory to the Code or any member of any signatory."

You will soon discover that you were wrong to believe Armstrong's feeble line.