Are we being forced to go electric?

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DRM

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Looks like EVs will be facing VED in a year or two
https://www.ft.com/content/405467f9-c3cd-4b4d-bc48-2582890e7820

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DRM

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That’s a very badly written article, it says under the photo that South Lanarkshire to charge for using charging points, then the article says Jeremy Hunt to change the rules to make EV owners pay “road tax” most peculiar as we all know nobody has paid road tax for a long, long time, but it does state the obvious that as EV take up increases, taxation on vehicles drops as the inland revenue are losing out on petrol/diesel taxation as well as the yearly tax on it’s emissions
 

icowden

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Alex321

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I hope they get taxed as ATM it's a tax break for the wealthy.
I don't think it will put off the uptake of electric vehicles as there is still a discount for electricity over petrol / diesel.

At the moment, with tax based on emissions, even some quite large ICE cars pay very little VED.

My diesel Insignia estate is only £20 per year, my wife's Micra is £30 per year. The difference between that sort of amount (after collection costs) and zero for EVs is very little really.
 
VED really needs to go up. Pointless charging people £20 a year. It probably costs more than that to administer it.

I'm sure road pricing will be the way forward but that'll be a few years away.
 

classic33

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VED really needs to go up. Pointless charging people £20 a year. It probably costs more than that to administer it.

I'm sure road pricing will be the way forward but that'll be a few years away.
I'd say every motorised vehicle on the roads will have a set amount, to be paid yearly.

With it possibly extending to e-assist and electric bicycles.
 
I'd say every motorised vehicle on the roads will have a set amount, to be paid yearly.

With it possibly extending to e-assist and electric bicycles.

How would it work with bicycles ? No number plates. Are you really going to tie the police up stopping cyclists for their papers to see if they have paid their £10 a year or whatever ?
 

classic33

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How would it work with bicycles ? No number plates. Are you really going to tie the police up stopping cyclists for their papers to see if they have paid their £10 a year or whatever ?
One scheme I've heard was along the lines all the details taken at point of sale, similar to how TV sales were done. And these forwarded on. An annual reminder sent out on the basis that you still have the bike, unless you inform them otherwise. Guilty until proven innocent, or you prove that you don't have the bike.
 
One scheme I've heard was along the lines all the details taken at point of sale, similar to how TV sales were done. And these forwarded on. An annual reminder sent out on the basis that you still have the bike, unless you inform them otherwise. Guilty until proven innocent, or you prove that you don't have the bike.

Interesting idea, perhaps that would work but I'd be happier with the extra taxes coming from the huge vehicles that still seem so popular these days.
 

Alex321

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I'd say every motorised vehicle on the roads will have a set amount, to be paid yearly.
That is hat it used to be (each Class of vehicle having a different amount though - so Motorbikes, cars, buses, LGV, HGV etc. Each havaing one amount).

They changed that a good few years ago to encourage "cleaner" vehicles.
 
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