anyone know this cyclist?

[Drago]

No one should ride on the foot way. As best it gives car drivers something to complain about when riders do it to dodge lights etc, at worst it can be dangerous.

 

[Profpointy]

[QUOTE 3708655, member: 45"]No. I'm suggesting that following something like this it's prudent for the parent to consider what he/she might be able to do to protect the child from future collisions with idiots.

Fear of being accused of victim blaming would prevent the parent being able to say "be careful Titch, there are some nobber cyclists around here".[/QUOTE]


Parent allowed child on pavement, not playing with lions. Being expected to be ultra diligent of yourself or of a child is a bit much I think

 

[Leodis]

Its just one crazy witch hunt targeting a minority. Sure the cyclist was wrong but accidents happen, I am sure he didn't mean it but this horrid attitude in society of blame. I sometimes wonder why kids mostly these days grow up without respect and lack any social morality and then I look at the parents. The parents in this case one walked off to unlock the car leaving the kid to wonder, the father was probs locking up and they took their eyes off the ball, the cyclist in hindsight would have used the road, accidents happen just because your a parent doesn't give you any more a higher moral level in life or society and the right to spread this guys picture about.

 

[Arrowfoot]

Its just one crazy witch hunt targeting a minority. Sure the cyclist was wrong but accidents happen, I am sure he didn't mean it but this horrid attitude in society of blame. I sometimes wonder why kids mostly these days grow up without respect and lack any social morality and then I look at the parents. The parents in this case one walked off to unlock the car leaving the kid to wonder, the father was probs locking up and they took their eyes off the ball, the cyclist in hindsight would have used the road, accidents happen just because your a parent doesn't give you any more a higher moral level in life or society and the right to spread this guys picture about.

Many of us grew up playing on the pavement in front of our homes. Thats the luxury most could afford. It was safe and our parents could hear us. Can't recall any accidents of this nature involving a cyclist. When a child and family can't even feel safe on the payment in front of their home, its a sad, day.

 

[Drago]

Accidents happen because f***wits aren't allowed to be drowned at birth.

This was no 'accident'. This incident was the direct result of someone's conscious decision to ignore the law, a law that is intended to protect pedestrians from injury by cyclists. Seeing as this is the result of a deliberately unlawful act, how can it be accidental?

 

[growingvegetables]

No attempt here to diminish the cyclist's responsibility.

Bit of background though - at 20, he's from that generation of kids whose (driving) parents bought them bikes. Cycling proficiency more or less moribund in schools (and irrelevant). Before Bikeability was introduced. And he's a testosterone-filled youf who can't afford a Corsa.

Recipe for disaster. The majority of pavement riders around me fall into that age group - and scare the bejasus out of me. Not a bloody clue.


And what's the answer?

• Bikeability 1 & 2 is made available to only two-thirds of primary school children in Leeds - entirely dependent on whether the school considers it appropriate to include it in their budget ... or not, as the case may be. Bikeability 3 - only made available to a tiny number of secondary school children.
• And driving parents continue to buy bikes for their kids ... without a thought for teaching their kids about safe riding.

Eeeh - I'm feeling grumpy tonight.

 

[PK99]

[QUOTE 3708773, member: 45"]I'm not too bothered about pavement cyclists. What I'm bothered about is a pavement cyclist who drags a toddler along a pavement and legs it.

Mind, he might have been frightened that dad was going to kill him, and he has handed himself in.[/QUOTE]

From the video, the dad was completely focussed on the child.

The cyclist was a complete farkwit and any one here who acts as apologist for his behaviour is also a complete farkwit.

 

[Pale Rider]

I think it's a good thing the cyclist crashed into the child when he did.

Otherwise, the child might have kept going, run into the road and suffered serious injury.

 

[anothersam]

A frame-by-frame analysis of the film shows that the "hit and run villain" was actually forced into the path of the child to avoid being run down by another cyclist, moving too fast to be positively identified but thought to be Sir Bradley Wiggins.

Wiggins, known to be practicing for his hour record attempt, has yet to answer police inquiries about his whereabouts at the time of the incident. The cyclist caught in the net of worldwide condemnation was reluctant to implicate him, however:

 

[Drago]

Nearly choked on my coffee when I read that. You, Sir, have made my morning!

 

[mickle]

Two issues. 1. Cyclist knocks child over on footpath. It's a matter for the police and the CPS to decide whether or or not to persue a prosecution, but clearly the cyclist is in the wrong. 2. The media's hysterical response to the incident and what that says about society's attitudes towards cyclists. A fair and just society would care about all RTAs and give each KSI the same value. But no. Up to 3000 people killed in the UK by accidents involving motor vehicles compared to fewer than one persons killed by cyclists. The Cops turn a blind eye to endemic law breaking by drivers - red light jumping, tailgating, using mobile phoned, close passes etc. But when one little girl is knocked over by a cyclist all hell breaks loose. We're surrounded by idiots and we're fighting a losing battle.

 

[nickyboy]

Two issues. 1. Cyclist knocks child over on footpath. It's a matter for the police and the CPS to decide whether or or not to persue a prosecution, but clearly the cyclist is in the wrong. 2. The media's hysterical response to the incident and what that says about society's attitudes towards cyclists. A fair and just society would care about all RTAs and give each KSI the same value. But no. Up to 3000 people killed in the UK by accidents involving motor vehicles compared to fewer than one persons killed by cyclists. The Cops turn a blind eye to endemic law breaking by drivers - red light jumping, tailgating, using mobile phoned, close passes etc. But when one little girl is knocked over by a cyclist all hell breaks loose. We're surrounded by idiots and we're fighting a losing battle.

I agree that, for whatever reason, society/media focus on incidents involving cyclists when far more involve motor vehicles but get very little attention. That's wrong. However, there seems to be a vocal minority of cyclists, based on the posts on this thread, who act as apologists for poor cycling behaviour. This doesn't help. Any reasonable person would look at the video and come to the conclusion that the cyclist was 100% in the wrong. Trying to argue in mitigation does the cycling community no favours. It marginalises us from mainstream opinion

Oh, and calling it a "battle" doesn't help either. My personal experience in cycling on roads is almost totally positive. Maybe I've been lucky or maybe it's because I don't go out to cycle in a confrontational, asserting-my-rights way?

 

[Arrowfoot]

Two issues. 1. Cyclist knocks child over on footpath. It's a matter for the police and the CPS to decide whether or or not to persue a prosecution, but clearly the cyclist is in the wrong. 2. The media's hysterical response to the incident and what that says about society's attitudes towards cyclists. A fair and just society would care about all RTAs and give each KSI the same value. But no. Up to 3000 people killed in the UK by accidents involving motor vehicles compared to fewer than one persons killed by cyclists. The Cops turn a blind eye to endemic law breaking by drivers - red light jumping, tailgating, using mobile phoned, close passes etc. But when one little girl is knocked over by a cyclist all hell breaks loose. We're surrounded by idiots and we're fighting a losing battle.

The comments are related to this incident. Not a single soul who found the cyclist conduct wanting suggested that we should ignore all other erroneous things and just focus on this cyclist. I am sure we all want the right actions taken against all parties who have erred. And not just this cyclist.

So lets not bring in the red light jumping, UK accidental deaths, the conditon of the cricket pitch at Lords or the name of my mum's boyfriend. All these are irrelevant.

 

[mickle]

The comments are related to this incident. Not a single soul who found the cyclist conduct wanting suggested that we should ignore all other erroneous things and just focus on this cyclist. I am sure we all want the right actions taken against all parties who have erred. And just this cyclist.

So lets not bring in the red light jumping, UK accidental deaths, the conditon of the cricket pitch at Lords or the name of my mum's boyfriend. All these ar irrelevant.

One little white girl ridden into by a cyclist and all hell breaks loose. Meanwhile carnage and endemic lawbreaking on the roads perpetrated by drivers on a daily basis goes unnoticed. If you think that's irrelevant you're a nidiot.

 

[cd365]

One little white girl ridden into by a cyclist and all hell breaks loose. Meanwhile carnage and endemic lawbreaking on the roads perpetrated by drivers on a daily basis goes unnoticed. If you think that's irrelevant you're a nidiot.

What has colour got to do with this now?