anyone know this cyclist?

[PhilDawson8270]

She chose to have a chat on her mobile.

EU should do something useful and build signal blockers into all motor vehicles. So that there's no phone signal inside the vehicle at all. I bet that would save a lot

 

[glenn forger]

Extremely unlikely, passengers shouldn't be barred from using phones. The point is that a culpable driver who killed two children didn't spend a day in prison, so jailing this rider would make no sense.

 

[jonny jeez]

EU should do something useful and build signal blockers into all motor vehicles. So that there's no phone signal inside the vehicle at all. I bet that would save a lot

Whilst loosing the country billions in revenue from business reliant upon communication.

More thought, less reaction

 

[PhilDawson8270]

Whilst loosing the country billions in revenue from business reliant upon communication.

More thought, less reaction

Use radio antenna on the outside of the vehicle to pick up phone signal, bluetooth connection inside the car.

Should allow for hands free usage, while stopping people texting and facebooking while driving.

Problem solved.

 

[glenn forger]

Just make the penalty the same as for drink-driving:

 

[shouldbeinbed]

That's right nationally. So 1.8% of pedestrians injured and hurt by cyclists, who are 2% of traffic, so cyclists are less likely to injure peds than drivers even after you allow for the respective disparate numbers.

Nationally yes, but London specifically to keep the situations in context? and in the same time period?

 

[glenn forger]

In London (1998-2007), just 2% of pedestrian collision injuries on the pavement involved cycles; the other 98% involved motor vehicles.8

http://www.ctc.org.uk/sites/default/files/file_public/pedestrians4rrv2.pdf

 

[shouldbeinbed]

In London (1998-2007), just 2% of pedestrian collision injuries on the pavement involved cycles; the other 98% involved motor vehicles.8

http://www.ctc.org.uk/sites/default/files/file_public/pedestrians4rrv2.pdf

Yes we have got that but it is a bit meaningless without the context of ratio of cycles to motor vehicles in the same city in the same time span.

 

[glenn forger]

Yes we have got that but it is a bit meaningless without the context of ratio of cycles to motor vehicles in the same city in the same time span.

Cyclists are 2% of traffic nationally, much higher in London, yet cyclists are LESS likely to injure a ped nationally or in London.

 

[shouldbeinbed]

Cyclists are 2% of traffic nationally, much higher in London, yet cyclists are LESS likely to injure a ped nationally or in London.

Again with the repeats. Context please & similar link as you're providing for collisions, what proportion of traffic were cyclists in that now quite distant time span in London?

I'm ready to accept the argument, I'd just like to see the numbers

 

[glenn forger]

It's a lot more than 2%, that's the point. In other words in the capital possibly ten per cent of traffic is cyclists, yet they cause 2% of peds' injuries, nationally the same rule applies. In the last ten years, just over 7,600 pedestrian were killed by motor vehicles while 29 were killed by cyclists. Over the same period, 364,000 pedestrians were injured by motor vehicles, almost 76,000 (or 21%) of them seriously while cyclists injured just over 2,600 with roughly the same proportion (22%) being considered serious. You are 263 times more likely to be killed by a motor vehicle than by a bicycle.

 

[MontyVeda]

Hands up all them cyclists that have never ever cycled on a footpath!!!

i also tell the odd porky though.

 

[glenn forger]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-bans-saw-7-cent-drop-deadly-car-crashes.html

 

[ufkacbln]

Cyclists are 2% of traffic nationally, much higher in London, yet cyclists are LESS likely to injure a ped nationally or in London.

It's all about risk.... Innit?

I remember one article that compares accidents per mile travelled and proved that per mile cyclist are by far the greater danger

 

[glenn forger]

That was The Times, and their figures were nonsense, they included motorway miles. No peds on motorways.