Anyone know someone who's xl bully has been affected by the law that came into effect today?

[ebikeerwidnes]

Aah but how do you know it is effective if nobody has tried it? It is possible that you could walk in with armour on and not get arrested. Just because nobody breaks the law doesn't mean it's effective.

Now you could test the effectiveness of the law by repeatedly going into parliament in armour. Would that prove effectiveness of that law or other laws relating to unauthorised access to parliament?

Sorry to be pedantic but an unused law isn't effective just unused, possibly because other ones are more relevant and prevents the unused one from being applied.

I wasn;t being totally serious - just to be clear

 

[presta]

100% however banning them years ago "should" mean there are none left. That isn't the case, the state/cps etc have no stomach for enforcing nor prosecuting anyone unless an injury has occurred.

Murder's been banned for centuries, there's still some of it about though.

 

[lazybloke]

Great at keeping grass short as well
and tasty!!

Unlike dogs who tend to "make a mess" on the lawn and eating them is frowned upon in most places!

Geese make lots of mess too!

 

[Time Waster]

I wasn;t being totally serious - just to be clear

Just to be clear I was trying to taunt and challenge you to go to parliament in armour. I was hoping to hear about it on the news later today. They'll be sitting (possibly in one of the bars) until quite late if you still want to make it!

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Just to be clear I was trying to taunt and challenge you to go to parliament in armour. I was hoping to hear about it on the news later today. They'll be sitting (possibly in one of the bars) until quite late if you still want to make it!

Sorry - the battery on my ebike is only the 300Wh version so it won;t get me as far as that

especially wearing my armour

although I suppose it would help in the event that some idiot tries to attack me for using the road while cycling with malice aforethought

Still - I'm sorry but I'll have to disappoint you

You could always as the Sun to make up a story - they have the experience after all
allegedly

 

[Time Waster]

I now have image of a guy in armour holding a lance trying to cycle into parliament on his ebike. What an image!

 

[raleighnut]

My uncle had a *cat* that should have been banned. He couldn't handle it without elbow-length leather gauntlets and it once killed another cat in a fight.

When the nice old fella who lived next door died his daughter sold the house to a couple of 'chavs' who had a Jack Russel kind of dog and after a few weeks this bloke said to me "I should watch your Cats mate, my dog'll kill them"
Anyhoo another couple of weeks later I was out the front of the house and my big Ginger Tom was sunning himself peacefully on the path when the idiots came out and this little yappy thing came out and ran into our front garden (they never 'leashed it) and my big ginger lad stood up and swiped the little mutt across the snout (drawing a fair amount of blood)and causing it to run off yelping. Not only was the Cat quite a bit bigger than the dog but he was a lot faster.

 

[Time Waster]

My friend had two rabbits that she left to roam free in her garden in summer. She often works away but has a friendly neighbour who checked up on them.

She used to see local cats sat on next door's she'd looking down on the rabbits. The rabbits knew it was there and kept watch. One time a cat jumped down and tried to attack the male rabbit. The female turned around and gave the cat a kick. My friend came home to see one rabbit with a couple of scratches lying under some boards out of the sun. The second was under the hutch out of the sun. The cat was lying next to the first rabbit with its jaw hanging off.

You see they were English giants! Bigger than any domestic cat breed and with a powerful kick that hurts when it doesn't mean it but leg breaking if it does. The cat and rabbit were taken to the local vets. The rabbit got bandaged and sent home. The cat died of its injuries. Beware of the killer wabbits. Money python were right!

 

[Fab Foodie]

Think he was jesting...or should that be jousting?

Expect a Daily Mail article about it....

 

[Time Waster]

Did anyone hear that story recently about the XL Bully on death row that got a reprieve but was then put down in an administrative error? Apparently the police messed up. While the owners were waiting to hear when and where to collect it from, instead they got told it was put down.

Now I mentioned it to my partner and we both had the same POV. I have no issues with what happened. I am of the opinion that any fighting breed and all those types based on them should all be put down. There is no need for a dog who's origins is based purely on dog fighting and who has such a huge potential for harm.

Is this controversial POV or is it the majority POV whether dog owners or not? I kind of have the same POV about dog breeds bred to have such deformed physique that they have potentially serious health issues, such as brachycephalic breeds. Although I do think you can breed this out of brachycephalic dog breeds with time. I think they are trying to do that to the british bulldog. It should be a taller, muscular, athletic and longer muzzles dog from the origins of the breed. IIRC the original show dogs were nothing like the current KC breed standard.

Sorry about that last digression rant. I just see we have made a few mistakes with dogs and need a reset on a few issues. Not least the KC breed standards and how they promote health issues.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Did anyone hear that story recently about the XL Bully on death row that got a reprieve but was then put down in an administrative error? Apparently the police messed up. While the owners were waiting to hear when and where to collect it from, instead they got told it was put down.

Now I mentioned it to my partner and we both had the same POV. I have no issues with what happened. I am of the opinion that any fighting breed and all those types based on them should all be put down. There is no need for a dog who's origins is based purely on dog fighting and who has such a huge potential for harm.

Is this controversial POV or is it the majority POV whether dog owners or not? I kind of have the same POV about dog breeds bred to have such deformed physique that they have potentially serious health issues, such as brachycephalic breeds. Although I do think you can breed this out of brachycephalic dog breeds with time. I think they are trying to do that to the british bulldog. It should be a taller, muscular, athletic and longer muzzles dog from the origins of the breed. IIRC the original show dogs were nothing like the current KC breed standard.

Sorry about that last digression rant. I just see we have made a few mistakes with dogs and need a reset on a few issues. Not least the KC breed standards and how they promote health issues.

I think I mostly agree with you

However, one point occurred to me about this case.

ALl thses type of dogs have to be registered and the date they had to be registered by was some time ago - and very well publicised

and this one had been taken into custody to be assessed - so presumably had not been registered when it should have been

now this doesn't excuse the "admin error"
but it does mean that the owners were not the innocent little victim who did nothing wrong and their cute little doggie woggie was killed by the bad people of the deep state

as well as the idea of their "cute little doggie woggie" being an XL Bully and not a Shitzu - why - just why if you want a pet???

 

[Time Waster]

I thought my post might get criticism as being heartless or something so I'm kind of glad that I'm not an outlier in my views

 

[icowden]

Anyhoo another couple of weeks later I was out the front of the house and my big Ginger Tom was sunning himself peacefully on the path when the idiots came out and this little yappy thing came out and ran into our front garden (they never 'leashed it) and my big ginger lad stood up and swiped the little mutt across the snout (drawing a fair amount of blood)and causing it to run off yelping. Not only was the Cat quite a bit bigger than the dog but he was a lot faster.

We had three Burmese cats. A complete softy called Zorro whom you could wear as a fur stole without fear of injury, his sister - a walking knife set called Tara and her son Aslan (she nearly killed him when he was born but he rose from the dead) - friendly but also sharp. A local dog had a go at Zorro who was too dim to realise that dogs aren't necessarily friends - the very apologetic neighbour told us that "I think my dog might have bitten your cat - is he ok?".

However by the time she had got back home, the Burmese Mafia had been assembled by the matriarch and the dog required a trip to the vet. We apologised in return but - y'know... cats.

PS: Needless to say that dog NEVER messed with the cats again. It was terrified of them.

 

[Drago]

"admin error."

That sounds like negligence or recklessness, and as dogs are considered property for the purposes of law that means someone working for the dibble has potentially commited criminal damage.

If I "accidentally" - read, negligently - had someones dog put down id be investigated for CD, and so the the person responsible at the farce concerned.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

"admin error."

That sounds like negligence or recklessness, and as dogs are considered property for the purposes of law that means someone working for the dibble has potentially commited criminal damage.

If I "accidentally" - read, negligently - had someones dog put down id be investigated for CD, and so the the person responsible at the farce concerned.

or possibly deliberate anti dog attitude??

it is not difficult to imagine a Police Officer having a grudge against that type of dog