cisamcgu
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Oddly, I rather like Cohen's voice - perhaps not the most musical, but certainly deeply emotional and absorbing.
And the Nobel prize for literature goes to ...
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Oddly, I rather like Cohen's voice - perhaps not the most musical, but certainly deeply emotional and absorbing.
MontyVeda
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Do you consider poetry to be literature?
swee'pea99
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Poetry is kind of 'refined essence of literature'. I'm sure even writers of other forms would (mostly) agree.
smutchin
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I don't beleeeve you.
[eta: dammit, must remember to read whole thread before replying in case someone else has made the same gag first - TMN to DP, I guess]
smutchin
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I'm a big Dylan fan. He wrote some great pop songs. I like his lyrics and I like the way he performs them.
I find the standard can't sing/can't play line tedious - the kind of guff you'd expect from any pub bore/Jeremy Clarkson - and the argument about whether or not pop songs can be considered literature is up there with the argument about whether equestrianism deserves to be in the Olympics for sheer fascination value.
Poetry is the art of stating big ideas in few words, using original forms of expression. There is little poetry to be found in internet forums.
I find the standard can't sing/can't play line tedious - the kind of guff you'd expect from any pub bore/Jeremy Clarkson - and the argument about whether or not pop songs can be considered literature is up there with the argument about whether equestrianism deserves to be in the Olympics for sheer fascination value.
Poetry is the art of stating big ideas in few words, using original forms of expression. There is little poetry to be found in internet forums.
smutchin
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I think my problem with the argument about whether or not Dylan's work can be considered 'Literature' is really a case of struggling to care what the Nobel committee think about anything.
Cycleops
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How did horses get into this?
smutchin
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You know how every time the Olympics comes around, people are always discussing which sports should and shouldn't be included (equestrianism being the prime talking point), and it's really very boring - no one ever has anything original or interesting to say on the matter, and none of it is important anyway.
Well, whether or not Bob Dylan's work should be regarded as Literature is basically the same discussion, only the terms have changed. And it's equally tedious. I'm not referring just to this thread but to the way the subject is being discussed in the wider world. Although there have been a few fairly perceptive and interesting comments in this thread, so maybe I'm being unfair.
For what it's worth, I think Dylan's lyrics are great in their capacity as lyrics of pop songs, which is all I've ever really considered them as – @dellzeqq is broadly right, though I think dismissing them as doggerel is a bit harsh.
To be honest, I've never paid much attention to the Nobel Prize for Literature in the past and I'm not about to start now just because they've awarded the prize to someone I like.
threebikesmcginty
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Been expecting you Smutchers!
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smutchin
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From someone that describes himself as a "jazz troubadour" - hhhmmm.
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Haitch
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srw
It's a bit more complicated than that...
Hmmmm..... Who to believe? A Professor and Cambridge Fellow in Literature or some random bloke from the newspapers?
SteCenturion
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Utterly beguiling & poetic wordsmithery, a storyteller of biblical proportions.
All hail King Bob.
