Ali Express

[sevenfourate]

I use Temu for some of my specialist tools, after all that is where the British companies that sell them but then from, and then resell them for ten times what I pay. I just paid £9.75 for a pair of bibbed long cycling bottoms with an excellent pad in, I am guessing if I bought them from a UK supplier they would have been five times the price and from the same source.

Ive had 3 (?) cycling Jersey’s / tops from Ali Express. All have been less than £10 to my door. One was worn right through Summer, has been washed maybe 50 times…and still looks and feels great !

 

[wafter]

I think Hunt wheels are rebranded chinese .

Tbh I suspect the vast majority of cycling kit advertised over here under UK names is made in China, but yeah - it seems Hunt get singled out for this. Way of the world, however it's irritating when the marketing tries to spin it as something other than it is..

 

[Conrad_K]

Cheap Chinesium bolts in a high load area ? Not his smartest move…..🙄

That's a *big* deal in the USA. The FAA has a certification procedure for fasteners used in aircraft. The paperwork plus the required quality level makes them quite expensive. So various vendors were buying look-alike Chinese fasteners and selling them as "certified."

At least one passenger airliner went down, and problems with several military aircraft caused crashes due to them as well. The FAA put forth a bunch of new regulations supposedly tightening things up, but Customs doesn't do much as far as interdicting the counterfeits, and the FAA doesn't bother to enforce its own rules much anyway.

Counterfeit fasteners are only a minor problem considering the avalanche of counterfeit medications in the US. Again, the relevant agencies don't seem to feel any pressure to, you know, do their freakin' jobs or anything.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Years ago I bought a SpongeBob cycling jersey (I'm a huge fan) from a Far East retailer. It was over 10 years ago so probs through Amazon. I ordered XXXL. It may be XXXL to some people , but not to me. It's a bit snug on my wife who is many things, but XXXL isn't one of them.

 

[Drago]

It's interesting how folk are happy to ride bicycles of far eastern origin, yet get a bit sniffy about clothing from the same region.

 

[wafter]

It's interesting how folk are happy to ride bicycles of far eastern origin, yet get a bit sniffy about clothing from the same region.

Somewhat difficult to get snotty about eastern bikes since the vast majority of what's available must originate there. Same with most products.

That said I think waryness around no-name stuff is fair. Ironically it seems that some of the direct-to-consumer Chinese composite frame manufactures are producing very significantly better quality frame than a lot of those being offered by established western brands.

 

[bonzobanana]

It's interesting how folk are happy to ride bicycles of far eastern origin, yet get a bit sniffy about clothing from the same region.

It's no joke though with regards Temu, aliexpress etc, many of their clothes can be a death sentence, they are full of carcinogenic chemicals. Yes if you clean them 2 or 3 times on arrival you should get rid of most of these compounds but there is still a risk even if you do that. A UK importer has to make sure the clothes are safe and meets safety standards but if you buy from Temu or Aliexpress its a personal import so bypasses such checks so personally I would avoid buying clothes and any cosmetics etc as can be horrifically dangerous. There is very little regard for the safety of Chinese people in China so its no surprise they aren't too bothered about foreigners either. There are loads of videos on youtube about how food in China is beyond disgusting with the chemicals they use, just to make a profit when such chemicals can kill their customers.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/internati...high-levels-of-toxic-chemicals_6715032_4.html


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNTO5OfINro

 

[Jenkins]

...The reverse Engineering skills of some of those Ingenius Herbert’s is quite frankly mind-blowing for the price...

As in counterfeiting.
How would you like it if you'd spent a fortune designing, developing, testing and manufacturing a product only for some 'Ingenius Herbert’ to copy your product and manufacture/sell it with none of the associated costs?

 

[slowmotion]

As in counterfeiting.
How would you like it if you'd spent a fortune designing, developing, testing and manufacturing a product only for some 'Ingenius Herbert’ to copy your product and manufacture/sell it with none of the associated costs?

If I was the original designer, I would be extremely pissed off.
As a consumer, if I saw that product on sale with a 500-1000% mark-up on sale in my home country, I would be looking on AliExpress for a cheap knock-off.

 

[FrankCrank]

Wonder how many on here drive a vehicle that was 'copied' from an idea that Henry Ford had.
He in turn 'copied' an idea that the Romans had with their chariots.
Etc..... ad infinitum.

 

[Gunk]

If I was the original designer, I would be extremely pissed off.

Brompton have give up taking Asian copycats to court, their view is that they are not losing customers to the cheap copies and the cost of fighting it is not worth the return.

 

[markharry66]

If I was the original designer, I would be extremely pissed off.
As a consumer, if I saw that product on sale with a 500-1000% mark-up on sale in my home country, I would be looking on AliExpress for a cheap knock-off.

so you never buy supermarket own branded goods then?

 

[FrankCrank]

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

 

[derrick]

As in counterfeiting.
How would you like it if you'd spent a fortune designing, developing, testing and manufacturing a product only for some 'Ingenius Herbert’ to copy your product and manufacture/sell it with none of the associated costs?

What, like the Japanese taking our old oily unreliable motor bikes and turning them into clean reliable motor bikes.

 

[Dogtrousers]

What, like the Japanese taking our old oily unreliable motor bikes and turning them into clean reliable motor bikes.

No, because that wasn't counterfeiting.