Age at Type 2 Diabetes diagnosis and life expectancy

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albion

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The correlation is the good cholesterol and bad cholestrol.

It is too much bad cholestrol increases risk, not the actual combined total quantity.
 

CXRAndy

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I remember when my doctor told me cholesterol level of 7.5 was normal when I was in my 20s now they want it under 5

Funny that


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simongt

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A long standing pal of mine has recently been diagnosed with Type 2 on top of his other health issues.
Fifty years of smoking related lung issues, recent prostate cancer, blood clot on his lung, so his health is not particularly good just now.
I was surprised at the diabetes diagnosis, as he's never been overweight; typically around the 65kg. mark. I can only surmise that it's probably down to a crap diet for years. :whistle:
 

Hicky

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My other half is a Senior Diabetic nurse, from what she says it can afflict anyone randomly depending on the type.
 

icowden

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I was surprised at the diabetes diagnosis, as he's never been overweight; typically around the 65kg. mark. I can only surmise that it's probably down to a crap diet for years. :whistle:
There can be a familial element as well as several other reasons for developing type 2. Those with a poor diet and who are overweight are just the highest risk group.
 

Jameshow

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There can be a familial element as well as several other reasons for developing type 2. Those with a poor diet and who are overweight are just the highest risk group.
If you eat a high sugar diet disguised by exercise are you at risk?... Asking for a friend..!🤣
 
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Mo1959

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No. sugar has no direct link...........it's being fat that leads to 'type 2'

Not convinced about that. Constantly fluctuating blood insulin caused by eating sugary food can eventually lead to insulin resistance which I presume could then progress to diabetes?
 
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If you eat a high sugar duet

Like these two?

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icowden

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Not convinced about that. Constantly fluctuating blood insulin caused by eating sugary food can eventually lead to insulin resistance which I presume could then progress to diabetes?
This is a fairly good article.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/does-sugar-cause-diabetes#bottom-line

The TL:biggrin:R is that foods with added sugars tend to make us fatter and also don't do the liver much good. Sleep quality and sedentary lifestyle are also risks as are family genetics and poor sleep. But @raleighnut is correct that there is no proven direct link between a sugary diet and type 2 diabetes.
 

Mo1959

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This is a fairly good article.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/does-sugar-cause-diabetes#bottom-line

The TL:biggrin:R is that foods with added sugars tend to make us fatter and also don't do the liver much good. Sleep quality and sedentary lifestyle are also risks as are family genetics and poor sleep. But @raleighnut is correct that there is no proven direct link between a sugary diet and type 2 diabetes.

That’s not the way I’m reading it?



The bottom line​


Excessive amounts of added sugars have been associated with an increased risk of type 2 diabetes, likely due to adverse effects on the liver and a higher risk of obesity.
 

icowden

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That’s not the way I’m reading it? The bottom line

Excessive amounts of added sugars have been associated with an increased risk of type 2 diabetes, likely due to adverse effects on the liver and a higher risk of obesity.
A direct link is "if this then that". For example there is a direct link between smoking tobacco and lung cancer. It explains 90% of lung cancer risk in men and 70 to 80% in women. We understand why smoking tobacco causes lung cancer.

For Type 2 diabetes, we don't have a direct link. We do know that a diet that is rich in sugar and fats, together with obesity and a sedentary lifestyle is linked to the onset of Type 2 diabetes, but there is nothing to say that if you take out the sugar but keep the obesity and sedentary lifestyle that onset will be different. So the link between sugar and type 2 diabetes isn't a direct link. There are plenty of people who consume a lot of sweet stuff but don't get Type 2, so there isn't a direct link. There is a combination of factors.
 

raleighnut

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I was type 2 diabetic but have beaten it, how you might ask..................Well I did some research and found what is known as 'Metabolic syndrome' High blood pressure and Type 2 so I lost some weight (20kg so over 4 stone) blood pressure slightly high now but acceptable and type 2 gone so I'm now tablet free.
How did I lose the weight, I used a combination of 'portion control' (put less on yer plate) and intermittent fasting (5:2 diet)
 

ColinJ

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I was type 2 diabetic but have beaten it, how you might ask..................Well I did some research and found what is known as 'Metabolic syndrome' High blood pressure and Type 2 so I lost some weight (20kg so over 4 stone) blood pressure slightly high now but acceptable and type 2 gone so I'm now tablet free.
How did I lose the weight, I used a combination of 'portion control' (put less on yer plate) and intermittent fasting (5:2 diet)
Well done.

I did similar by: a bit less on plate, 5:2, and no alcohol at all.

20 kg is about 3 st 2 lbs though!
 
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