Abuse by fellow cyclists.

[smutchin]

That's one of those things that always bemuses me - when you encounter a group of pedestrians taking up the width of the path, they will part like the Red Sea, climbing up on banks and verges on both sides of the path or even pressing themselves into hedges, when staying on the path and going single file would OBVIOUSLY be the much more sensible option.

Or is it only obvious to me?

 

[welsh dragon]

[QUOTE 5294398, member: 9609"]this is the trick - just live somewhere nice.

I have an added bonus if you choose the correct roads there is virtual no vehicles either. Last night, 32 mile, 3 cars, 4 horses, no cyclists., no walkers, no joggers - apart from the 3 cars it was near perfect.[/QUOTE]


Same here.

 

[mjr]

That's one of those things that always bemuses me - when you encounter a group of pedestrians taking up the width of the path, they will part like the Red Sea, climbing up on banks and verges on both sides of the path or even pressing themselves into hedges, when staying on the path and going single file would OBVIOUSLY be the much more sensible option.

Or is it only obvious to me?

Nah, it seems pretty obvious to me. Don't even need to go single file on 5m width. Just leave a gap and give some indication of having seen other road users.

 

[smutchin]

there are times where one can legitimately decline to give way without causing a collision or confrontation and doing so is not necessarily trying to make some point about priority or whatever

Well, yeah, if not giving way isn't going to cause a collision or confrontation then there's clearly no need to give way.

Like I said, it's about making a judgment on the best course of action for each individual situation as it arises. I've certainly not suggested always giving way.

(It occurs to me we may be talking at cross purposes about the meaning of "give way" - I don't necessarily mean stopping or even slowing down, giving way could simply mean changing your line to avoid a head-on collision.)

 

[Threevok]

I find shouting "Strava" usually parts any pedestrians

Before that, I tried shouting "Endomondo" - but my times suffered from all obstacles I kept hitting

 

[glasgowcyclist]

There's a limited amount of space available,

The accommodation of safe infrastructure for cycling isn't a physical problem but a political one.

 

[Heltor Chasca]

My trouble is that I use our local Greenway four times a day on the school run. I recognise all the regulars and they all recognise me. Because none of us are consigned to an anonymous tin can, where you might normally think you can mouth expletives and give them the bird, we have resorted to treating each other cordially. You know: saying ‘good morning’, smoothing their dogs, doing that weird British-weather-thing etc. For our sins, some of us know each other’s names.

Not the outcome I was plumping for. In this day and age I would much prefer a punch up whilst getting it filmed on my mobile for YouTube.

 

[Nigel-YZ1]

That's one of those things that always bemuses me - when you encounter a group of pedestrians taking up the width of the path, they will part like the Red Sea, climbing up on banks and verges on both sides of the path or even pressing themselves into hedges, when staying on the path and going single file would OBVIOUSLY be the much more sensible option.

Or is it only obvious to me?

I like the 'theatrical leap' as you pootle along at walking pace having been in their sight for 200 yards. Then there's stepping off the path and looking from side to side as if they've been magically transported to the central reservation of the M25.
When I stop to let others past I don't feel the need to dive headlong over the bars like Evel Knievel or pull stoppie (or whatever it is the young people call it).
It's more about making a point than sharing and it's rather sad.

 

[Darren Jeffrey]

Was out with the family cycling round Loch Katrine recently (shared use path) and an old "gent" came screaming down a hill shouting "on your right, on your right". As a cyclist myself I knew what he meant however people just out for a tootle around the loch had no idea so just froze because someone was shouting and inevitably ended up in his way which then lead to a torrent of abuse for not knowing the rules of cycling. Think its important to know your audience. Not everyone is out pretending to ride the tour and to break strava records

 

[Mugshot]

That's one of those things that always bemuses me - when you encounter a group of pedestrians taking up the width of the path, they will part like the Red Sea, climbing up on banks and verges on both sides of the path or even pressing themselves into hedges, when staying on the path and going single file would OBVIOUSLY be the much more sensible option.

Or is it only obvious to me?

Most people I encounter seem to be very keen to leap out of the way, it has crossed my mind that this may be due to how other cyclists have come past them, which makes me a little sad.

 

[SkipdiverJohn]

. You know, there's a lot of people that feel that cyclists being on the road at all is "dumb and inconsiderate", do you have any sympathy with their point of view?

Cyclists and motorised traffic have co-existed on the roads for roughly the same period of time, since the safety bicycle and motor car are both late 19th century inventions. I take the view that all road users are created equal, and all have exactly the same responsibility to obey the rules of the road, behave themselves, and try to cause each other as little problems as possible. All the time that happens, conflict is minimised - as much as is possible in a congested and overpopulated country.
I'm afraid a lot of the negative attitudes held towards cyclists are at least partly caused by the antics of the rogue minority who think that they can do whatever they like because they haven't got a number plate to be identified from. I take a very hard line against the reckless element, because they are really the ones who generate the anti-cyclist hatred and the responsible law-abiding cyclist then suffers having to ride around in a hostile environment, because they get lumped in with the rogues.

 

[Mugshot]

Cyclists and motorised traffic have co-existed on the roads for roughly the same period of time, since the safety bicycle and motor car are both late 19th century inventions. I take the view that all road users are created equal, and all have exactly the same responsibility to obey the rules of the road, behave themselves, and try to cause each other as little problems as possible. All the time that happens, conflict is minimised - as much as is possible in a congested and overpopulated country.
I'm afraid a lot of the negative attitudes held towards cyclists are at least partly caused by the antics of the rogue minority who think that they can do whatever they like because they haven't got a number plate to be identified from. I take a very hard line against the reckless element, because they are really the ones who generate the anti-cyclist hatred and the responsible law-abiding cyclist then suffers having to ride around in a hostile environment, because they get lumped in with the rogues.

I'll take that as a yes then. Wishing death or serious injury on someone because they did something that you don't approve of is reprehensible, the system has also stopped dishing out capital or corporal punishment for such henious crimes as RLJing. Hardline or not your views are neither reasonable nor appropriate.
You may also want to consider that you wishing somebody is killed or maimed by a motor vehicle is not the same thing as fate dealing with them as you suggested in your previous post.

 

[Venod]

Or is it only obvious to me?

No I have noticed the over reaction of walkers, also, what I don't like are the ones who will part, one each side leaving a minimum gap for me to negotiate as if they are testing my riding skills.

 

[mjr]

I take the view that all road users are created equal, and all have exactly the same responsibility to obey the rules of the road, behave themselves, and try to cause each other as little problems as possible.

Whereas I take the view that the greater responsibility is on those with a greater potential to cause death, doom and destruction. How on Earth could you possibly try to justify the toddler walking to playgroup who's just slipped out of daddy's hand to pick up their dropped toy having the same responsibility to obey the rules of the road as an HGV driver?

All the time that happens, conflict is minimised - as much as is possible in a congested and overpopulated country.

That sounds like someone who's not seen the roads lately!

I'm afraid a lot of the negative attitudes held towards cyclists are at least partly caused by the antics of the rogue minority who think that they can do whatever they like because they haven't got a number plate to be identified from

I very much doubt there's enough doing it for that reason to cause anything. Anyway, it's nice to see a member of the Stockholm Syndrome Cycling Club getting onto the wider internet(!)

 

[Pat "5mph"]

Could it be that our very own @Pat "5mph" was going too fast?

Garmin said 8mph.
After a shift in this heat I cannot go any faster!

So I eased off and shouted out in a friendly manner 'On your left Mate'. To which he replied with the exact same in that sarcastic manner mimicking my accent. Maybe the next time I should shout out aggressively 'Watch where you are going Tw@t'

Ach, no worth it, I never answer to insults, might give them the look, though.