A57 Snake Pass Closure February and March 2022

[Ming the Merciless]

So you don't know the road then?

The works are down the other side. Again why can’t the side they are doing nothing on, stay open for cycling and walking?

 

[fossyant]

And if anyone fancies riding it once 'open' again, I'd suggest early on a weekend. PS there aren't great views up there, it's OK a climb, nothing spectacular, you do get a reasonable quick descent, but the surface is a bit crap in places. I'd also loop back via Edale - far better climbs that side.

 

[fossyant]

The works are down the other side. Again why can’t the side they are doing nothing on, stay open for cycling and walking?

Because people are going through the road works. Us locals aren't arsed about it, so why should you lot who've possibly never been near the road bothered ? Oh yeh, just to be an arse in the internet.

 

[I like Skol]

The works are down the other side. Again why can’t the side they are doing nothing on, stay open for cycling and walking?

Not sure what happened there, you appear to have edited your post as I replied?

Anyway, As we have already discussed, you can't trust people to turn back where they should and there is a risk due to the treatment of the road as 'closed' when in reality it is still being used for private access and service vehicles.

I agree with the closure (in case you haven't noticed) because while it is disappointing, public behaviour has forced the decision.

 

[fossyant]

The works are down the other side. Again why can’t the side they are doing nothing on, stay open for cycling and walking?

As I said earlier - most likely safety. The glossop side is highly likely to be used by trucks bringing up aggregate, and the other side if it's just stone. It's been seen that people have been dicking about on it, including car drivers, so the Elf and Safety have shut it. You don't need to use the road, there are other alternatives which are about the same distance. No big deal.

 

[wiggydiggy]

I read this on my news last night, I was a bit confused as the first article didn't mention landslips just that it had closed which seemed odd! After a bit of digging I realised it has actually been closed to motorised traffic for a little while, but was still open to cyclists/other none motorised traffic but had now shut completely.

It's annoying sure as a closed road is great to cycle on and going by the tweet quoted in this article Fury as Snake Pass closed and put under 24/7 guard, banning drivers, cyclists and walkers it sounds like it was getting popular and so potentially bigger risk of injury which the council would be responsible for. Tweet - "....There was a festival atmosphere there last weekend, with families and kids as well as lots of cyclists....."

This article Latest photos show A57 Snake Pass remains in perilous state after landslide shows some more pictures with the damage going right accross the road now so it's getting worse, and it does say the ground hasn't stopped moving yet.

So yeah it's annoying but I can understand the council wanting to close it, the road isn't going away so when it's fixed we can get back on it. I've ridden it once, several years ago now, so maybe I've got a target to aim for later this year now!

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Not sure what happened there, you appear to have edited your post as I replied?
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Anyway, As we have already discussed, you can't trust people to turn back where they should and there is a risk due to the treatment of the road as 'closed' when in reality it is still being used for private access and service vehicles.

I agree with the closure (in case you haven't noticed) because while it is disappointing, public behaviour has forced the decision.

Not sure what happened there, you appear to have edited your post as I replied?
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Anyway, As we have already discussed, you can't trust people to turn back where they should and there is a risk due to the treatment of the road as 'closed' when in reality it is still being used for private access and service vehicles.

I agree with the closure (in case you haven't noticed) because while it is disappointing, public behaviour has forced the decision.

Not that I’m aware of, but your reply did seem rapid after I posted. Does seem a shame that the whole thing is closed when it’s a relatively short section on the Ladybower side being worked on.

 

[classic33]

Why can’t it be kept open from Glossop to the summit? I am well familiar with the road having grown up in the area.

Maybe the full closure allows them to operate a one way system for vehicles involved with the work. No other vehicles on the road.

Two roads, local to me, resurfaced during the hours of darkness. Both closed between 1900 and 0700, in October. Contractor operated a one way system for all vehicles involved with the work. A roundabout route, but it allowed them to get the work done quicker.

 

[I like Skol]

Just to reiterate

Maybe the full closure allows them to operate a one way system for vehicles involved with the work. No other vehicles on the road.

Two roads, local to me, resurfaced during the hours of darkness. Both closed between 1900 and 0700, in October. Contractor operated a one way system for all vehicles involved with the work. A roundabout route, but it allowed them to get the work done quicker.

Makes sense. You are going to struggle to turn around safely in anything much bigger than a transit van between Glossop and Ladybower and even turning a Transit will be difficult/dangerous on large stretches of the road.

 

[straas]

If that was the case they'd have released a statement saying the road would be closed due to it being blocked by plant & equipment, because that's a far less contentious statement to make and would be broadly accepted.

 

[matticus]

Maybe the full closure allows them to operate a one way system for vehicles involved with the work. No other vehicles on the road.

Two roads, local to me, resurfaced during the hours of darkness. Both closed between 1900 and 0700, in October. Contractor operated a one way system for all vehicles involved with the work. A roundabout route, but it allowed them to get the work done quicker.

There are no works between Glossop and the summit. How would closing the road - or introdcuing a one-way system - help vehicle movement?

 

[matticus]

From the Motorsports thread: should have realised it really belonged here:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09eFI2nATzY

 

[Hacienda71]

I do feel for the guys on the barrier having been a marshall a number of times at the local half marathon. One guy in particular springs to mind. He was insistent he should be allowed through the barrier and started to try to push past me on his bike, despite 6000 runners rapidly approaching. The road was legally shut but when I pointed it out to him he accused me of raising my voice and started ranting about being a solicitor. Despite being a pretty keen cyclist I started to lose my cool at that point because he was being such a self righteous prick, so I walked away and got another marshall to block his way.
Unfortunately the attitudes of a few can perpetuate the myth that cyclists are self entitled nobbers who think they own the road. We don't live in anarchic society and should at times accept that we can't do something because we're told not to. It isn't an attack on our civil liberties. As others have said cycle another road. You have Holme Moss, The Cat and Fiddle, Long Hill, The Brickworks, Cragg Vale and countless other iconic climbs in the area so why is the conflict necessary.

 

[Jody]

Gets very confusing when Ming is arguing with Ming @I like Skol @Ming the Merciless

 

[I like Skol]

Gets very confusing when Ming is arguing with Ming @I like Skol @Ming the Merciless

You'll have to ask that nobber @Yukon Boy to explain it. He's the one who slapped in a name change and avatar swap about 2 minutes after I put up my festive Christmas avatar.