A 'Proper 'D Lock - ?

[ebikeerwidnes]

extra point - you need to check the terms that the insurance requires from the lock and how it is used

I used to use Yellow Jersey - they wanted proof that the lock was Sold Secure Gold
plus proof that it had been locked up
and if it was locked at home then it had to be locked to a wall
and if it was in a wooden shed then to a ground anchor as well

I was worried about proving all this if the bikes were stolen
so I rang the House Insurance company and asked them
basically they just want it to be locked - no reall conditions
and if it is in a brick shed then that is fine
outside - locked using any lock will do - even a cheap one from a supermarket - which could be broken by anyone

I know they would suddenly want more if it was stolen - but I have photos of everything and they have to stick to the words on the policy

I just find that it pay to check the details every renewal - the Yellow Jersey changed at one point without any clear notification as well!

SO at the moment I stay with the House insurance and just upgrade it to include it being knicked outdoors.

 

[rogerzilla]

How long has it been out there in the shops? It is likely that some magazine tech expert is at it right now with the tools of the trade!! I used to know a good website on lock safety. It had good info on how locks coped with different attack modes. Apparently IIRC they used ex bike thieves and other techies to crack the locks with the specialist tricks of the trade as well as the more opportunist tools of the trade. Cannot recall now where the site is or what it was called. I found it interesting at the time.

Lockpickinglawyer is a YouTube channel that does such things.

 

[almostvegancyclist]

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/revie...8950-angle-grinder-resistant-bike-lock-review

I bought one of these for about £120, and it appears to do the same as other angle grinder-resistant locks:
View: https://youtu.be/bO4h385PPUY?si=7lkvUNIPuPUDpMg0

 

[Dogtrousers]

Lockpickinglawyer is a YouTube channel that does such things.

I think, where most bike thefts are concerned, the competing channel anglegrindingscrote may be more relevant

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

I do wonder if 3 much cheaper locks all on the same bike but in different places and at different angles

might prove more of a dis-incentive than one very good lock

after all - your average bike thief is probably not going to recognise that the lock is good until he tries to cut it
and by then it is probably in his head that he HAS to cut it

but 3 different ones is clearly far more trouble right from the start

maybe

especially if the bike is left around other bikes

 

[andrew_s]

Angle grinder resistant locks have been out for a year or two now.
First were the Hiplok D1000 and Litelok X1 & X3

Another that came out recently is the Magnum Onguard Rocksolid 8590
That's about £150 & 1.4 kg

They generally aim to wear down the grinder cutting disc fairly quickly, so although a thief will get the lock off in due course, that may involve 2 battery packs and 4 or 5 discs for the tougher locks.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Since this thread started I have been looking at bike parked upa bit more
I have also been walking around a lot more due ot "issues" so have passed a lot more than usual

nearly all the bike I have seen locked up have had simple cable locks and nothing else
quite a few nice looking ones just leant against the wall!

so round here there doesn;t seem to be a problem - so any D lock would be fine

I suppose I am saying - it depends on the area - if a numpty can get away with a bike in 10 seconds with bolt cutters - why would they come equipped with an angle grinder and take the extra time?

 

[almostvegancyclist]

Since this thread started I have been looking at bike parked upa bit more
I have also been walking around a lot more due ot "issues" so have passed a lot more than usual

nearly all the bike I have seen locked up have had simple cable locks and nothing else
quite a few nice looking ones just leant against the wall!

so round here there doesn;t seem to be a problem - so any D lock would be fine

I suppose I am saying - it depends on the area - if a numpty can get away with a bike in 10 seconds with bolt cutters - why would they come equipped with an angle grinder and take the extra time?

Have you seen the recent GCN video on bike thefts? Thought it was interesting, especially about professional gang network targeting pricey bikes shipping them out of the country as soon as they're stolen.

My reasoning is similar to yours - two D locks, and one is angle grinder resistant. Bike is under £1000. I made it make no sense for anyone to target it.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Have you seen the recent GCN video on bike thefts? Thought it was interesting, especially about professional gang network targeting pricey bikes shipping them out of the country as soon as they're stolen.

My reasoning is similar to yours - two D locks, and one is angle grinder resistant. Bike is under £1000. I made it make no sense for anyone to target it.

Professional gangs are the ones to worry about if you have a decent lock

But I suppose they will know what they are doing and go to places with a number of bikes they are interested in

Mostly commuter places where a lot of bikes are left for an extended period of time

WHich explains why I never see any serious problems on Widnes high street - it is mostly kids bikes only left for a short while
the chances of seeing a bike worth £1000 are minimal - you would be lucky to get one you could sell for £100 most of the time!!!