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That's a very clean square cut through stainless steel, no heat mark or spelching of the metal on the cut lineš¤
Generally I would just take it for granted that rack providers aren't taking any responsibility for the bikes. The camera sign might imply otherwise, but I think it's probably just there as a deterrent, I very much doubt that anyone's paid to sit watching CCTV all day.
Looks as though an industrial pipe cutter was used, not an angle grinder.That's a very clean square cut through stainless steel, no heat mark or spelching of the metal on the cut lineš¤
You may prefer another term but a new poster posts about his loss and is then told to add some form of wheel locking so that it can't be ridden ......... he's just had his bike nicked and there is no reason to believe that adding such a lock would have made any difference....... Define victim blaming (tip: this is not it)......
No and that is not what I said in relation to the supermarket..... Do you suggest that a local authority should be liable if a bike is stolen having been locked to one of their publicly funded cycle racks?....
........What a load of codswallop (I'm writing this in case someone comes on your post in a search at some later date).......Arguing that a sign of the type described forms a contract is so flawed as to be laughable.........
Good morning,
You may prefer another term but a new poster posts about his loss and is then told to add some form of wheel locking so that it can't be ridden ......... he's just had his bike nicked and there is no reason to believe that adding such a lock would have made any difference.
I was pretty annoyed to find my commuter nicked https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/norco-pinched-just-in-case-anyone-sees-it-on-ebay-etc.284440 a while back.
The poster of that post didn't feel a need to respond so it is surprising that you do.
No and that is not what I said in relation to the supermarket.
I was suggesting that a potential liabilty may have be acquired as result of posting a sign that could reasonably interpreted as stating something that was not in fact the case.
So if the local authority posts a sign saying Cyclists your bike is safe here as we have 24 hour security above one of their cycle racks and they don't have such security then yes I am suggesting that they may have liablilties for the loss.
Not because of the theft but because the cyclist may have used the information that the security was in force when deciding to leave the cycle there.
You are perfectly entitled to your opinion and I had to smile at the confidence you have in it.
I remember when wheel clamping first started, most people assumed that it was illegal, how on Earth can someone deprive me of my car just because I parked on their car park. It turned out to be legal.
When "fines" for parking on private land started appearing most people assumed that it was illegal, it turned out to be legal.
When these "fines" for parking on private land where challanged as they were compensation for breach of contract so should only be a few quid, it turned out to be legal as it was reasonable to set them at a level to act as a deterent.
Almost everybody in life, be they real people or legal entities such as a company, are responsible for their actions and as a general princple if you tell an untruth expecting people to act on that then there may be consequences.
You may dislike the word contract and sure I can spend hundreds of words calling it an agreement, an encouragement to act in a certain way or many other things until we end up with tldr; contract.
I've have a supermarket just a bit too far to walk to in the lunch break with similar racks and have been contemplating locking either a 753 Raleigh, actually pretty much worthless but easy to believe that it is valuable, or my Ribble ebike.
Other than I am a cynic/realist I would take a sign that says CCTV in operation to mean something different to one that uses the more common wording of CCTV may be in operation. The second wording is far more common because it is almost meaningless yet complies with various regs requiring that notification of recording be given.
Bye
Ian
Others have grunged up their bike to destroy its resale value, bad paintwork etc.