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alex_cycles

Veteran
Location
Oxfordshire
I'm not around much at the moment, but if I can make it one evening I'll see if I can join a race. How's the joining work?

Mostly through Discord. I only run morning teams, but if you look in here you should be able to find one.
There's only one TTR per season though. But next week is three sprint segments on Park Perimeter which you may enjoy.

You're currently at Bronze level

There must be teams in EMEA with slots.
 
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CXRAndy

Guru
Location
Lincs
3rd ride rebuilding fitness. I tried a little bit of standing, that's ok for a few seconds, knee getting stronger.

Actual fitness I'm around 40W down on Z2 pace for similar heart rate. I did push up Libby and the following climb to get the maximal effort feeling.

Quite a way to go before I'm back
 

Norry1

Legendary Member
Location
Warwick
Did my first hundred miler in ages yeaterday. Set off to do 78 miles, tile collecting. Felt strong and realised I could do my best ever 5 hour power if I stayed averaging upper Z2 so extended the ride. Then realised I could also do a ton and my best ever 6 hr av power, so cracked on.

I am a self confessed "numbers and records" man ^_^
 

alex_cycles

Veteran
Location
Oxfordshire
Totally Agree - for longer races anyway.

I've been doing a lot more "longer" races on Zwift over the last 2-3 months to get ready for the Chasing Classics.

One thing I've noticed is that I might be able to hang with the fast guys for longer than other people in my "Cat" but many of them have learnt how to pace sustainably over that duration and catch me later on when I'm flagging.

Durability also explains why training on these longer 1.5-2 hour races makes the shorter DRS 45 minute races "seem easier".

I've always found FTP tests overestimate my true capability. Like CP and W', it's all modelling of complex biological systems and we all have different physiology, nutrition, stress, health, sleep, fatigue, and cumulative training time in the legs etc. so there will be errors.

I think Eddie Merckx had it right. Ride your bike a lot. :laugh:
 

Whorty

Gets free watts from the Atom ;)
Location
Wiltshire
I've been doing a lot more "longer" races on Zwift over the last 2-3 months to get ready for the Chasing Classics.

One thing I've noticed is that I might be able to hang with the fast guys for longer than other people in my "Cat" but many of them have learnt how to pace sustainably over that duration and catch me later on when I'm flagging.

Durability also explains why training on these longer 1.5-2 hour races makes the shorter DRS 45 minute races "seem easier".

I've always found FTP tests overestimate my true capability. Like CP and W', it's all modelling of complex biological systems and we all have different physiology, nutrition, stress, health, sleep, fatigue, and cumulative training time in the legs etc. so there will be errors.

I think Eddie Merckx had it right. Ride your bike a lot. :laugh:

Durability makes absolute sense for the Pros and long races, where there is 4 hours of 'tempo' and a final hour of racing when the body is suffering. But not sure how it equates to 45 minute Zwift race; surely in a 45 minute race FTP, or some equivalence, is still more influential? Most A-C Zwifters are unlikely to be fatigued enough in a shortish race that the stronger 'FTP' rider is not going to win if there is a climb involved? Obviously flatter courses it's more watts and sprinting that gets more influence?

It's why I've always tried to do the surge/recover in Zwift races (where there is no climb), but then maybe that's what durability is, the ability to recover and be a little more fresh after a little dig?
Interesting article for sure.
 
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