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Brendan Parker
Veteran
- Location
- essex, england
I think it’s trying to say they have fitted the new model with cheap keyway and bolt and it’s backfired so here is a proper one
Admittinly they will replace for you if you can do without it for a few weeks
theboxers
TheBoxers on Cycle Sim sw
- Location
- OTC (on the couch)
Where did you order these parts from? Is it on Wahoo's support site?
Brendan Parker
Veteran
- Location
- essex, england
I’ve seen it on a Facebook page. All people with the rattling are getting the option of fit yourself with these parts they ship out or send back your unit and they will fit. Or send a new unit with the new hardware fitted.
So I will be requesting and changing anyway. I presume from support yes.
Brendan Parker
Veteran
- Location
- essex, england
I haven’t had any issue YET, admitingly I haven’t had a look inside either. I will tomorrow though and request the new parts.
I presume you’ve changed yours yourself @CXRAndy ?
Not yet. I have requested the parts now. I was interested to see the keyway. There is a millimetre or so of play
JuhaL
Guru
I have noticed some banging noises with Drivo 2 occasionally. My conclusion is that it will come from drivetrain, probably from the cassette/chain. I think it's a sign that bike is not perfectly attached to trainer, otherwise that noise would be appear every sessions. Need to be more careful in a future.
bobinski
Legendary Member
- Location
- Tulse Hill
From KISS Zwift Races Headquarters – New Zwift group drafting feature made available to KISS races on ongoing basis.
Zwifters love the cerebral stimulus offered by Zwift racing competition. We keep coming back to push our limits and ride against our comrades forged in fitness. When the person that dropped you on the Epic KOM last week rocks up to the start line at this week’s flat criterium race, you save your energy to roll her/him in the bunch sprint. You’re a sprinter after all, not a climber. A great rivalry is born.
We are excited to take the tried-and-true Zwift racing stimulus to the next level on an ongoing basis for all KISS races. Working closely with Zwift HQ, we will use an alternative Zwift draft (Draft 2.0, TruDraft, Full Draft) effect to bring Zwift racing even closer to the real life experience.
When the dev team originally set up the drafting physics in Zwift, they actually ratcheted down the benefit that you'd get in the real world behind a rider of a given size. The decision was made to scale back drafting for a few reasons:
1) One is that there's no ability to position one's avatar left and right on the road. And there's no braking. So the ability to really fine tune your position is a challenge.
2) The main reason is that most people riding indoors are doing so because they want a quality workout. Picture yourself in the Tour de France. The peloton is moving in excess of 50 kph with most riders sitting in the draft at less than 200 watts. That's great on the road if you have to ride 3,000km. But if you're trying to make the most of an hour on the trainer, it's not ideal.
Racers still want a quality workout from a Zwift race, but not to the detriment of the intense mental stimulus Zwift racing has to offer. Attacks mid-race are hard to justify if rolling in the bunch only offers Zone 3 or Zone 4 for recovery. Ouch. Breakaways, one of the best features of real life racing, are few and far between. Rolling courses, mountainous courses, and flat courses almost always come down to who has the most w/kg in the finishing sprint. This is the Zwift racing we all know and love, but it’s about to get better.
Let’s look at breakaway riding as an example. Strong riders who are working less in the main group will have more reserve energy to attack the group. Attacking power is not equal among all racers and thus the likelihood of an attack sticking is increased. Once established that breakaway group also benefits from Draft 2.0 and therefore will have actual respite. This recovery is converted into more power to drive and extend the breakaway gap. It opens up more options giving riders more energy to work with. Are you the Mark Cavendish in the chasing peloton waiting for the bunch kick? It will only come back if you can convince the Tony Martin in the group to pull on the front to bring back the breakaway move. More variables and opportunities. Not less. We hope this will lead to increased tactics, added teamwork, and fresh strategic opportunities.
Zwifters love the cerebral stimulus offered by Zwift racing competition. We keep coming back to push our limits and ride against our comrades forged in fitness. When the person that dropped you on the Epic KOM last week rocks up to the start line at this week’s flat criterium race, you save your energy to roll her/him in the bunch sprint. You’re a sprinter after all, not a climber. A great rivalry is born.
We are excited to take the tried-and-true Zwift racing stimulus to the next level on an ongoing basis for all KISS races. Working closely with Zwift HQ, we will use an alternative Zwift draft (Draft 2.0, TruDraft, Full Draft) effect to bring Zwift racing even closer to the real life experience.
When the dev team originally set up the drafting physics in Zwift, they actually ratcheted down the benefit that you'd get in the real world behind a rider of a given size. The decision was made to scale back drafting for a few reasons:
1) One is that there's no ability to position one's avatar left and right on the road. And there's no braking. So the ability to really fine tune your position is a challenge.
2) The main reason is that most people riding indoors are doing so because they want a quality workout. Picture yourself in the Tour de France. The peloton is moving in excess of 50 kph with most riders sitting in the draft at less than 200 watts. That's great on the road if you have to ride 3,000km. But if you're trying to make the most of an hour on the trainer, it's not ideal.
Racers still want a quality workout from a Zwift race, but not to the detriment of the intense mental stimulus Zwift racing has to offer. Attacks mid-race are hard to justify if rolling in the bunch only offers Zone 3 or Zone 4 for recovery. Ouch. Breakaways, one of the best features of real life racing, are few and far between. Rolling courses, mountainous courses, and flat courses almost always come down to who has the most w/kg in the finishing sprint. This is the Zwift racing we all know and love, but it’s about to get better.
Let’s look at breakaway riding as an example. Strong riders who are working less in the main group will have more reserve energy to attack the group. Attacking power is not equal among all racers and thus the likelihood of an attack sticking is increased. Once established that breakaway group also benefits from Draft 2.0 and therefore will have actual respite. This recovery is converted into more power to drive and extend the breakaway gap. It opens up more options giving riders more energy to work with. Are you the Mark Cavendish in the chasing peloton waiting for the bunch kick? It will only come back if you can convince the Tony Martin in the group to pull on the front to bring back the breakaway move. More variables and opportunities. Not less. We hope this will lead to increased tactics, added teamwork, and fresh strategic opportunities.
berty bassett
Legendary Member
- Location
- I'boro
you ever met Bob ?
i think you will find it was an impersonation Rory bremner would have been proud of !
berty bassett
Legendary Member
- Location
- I'boro
All the best Jeff
We always knew Zwift's draft was missing a bit of realism. If they can get the level right it will make racing more exciting, tactical
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
Cliffs:
-Drafting was historically dialled down on Zwift. (Goes to show everyone who thought drafting sucked was right! [see what I did there?...])
-now they’ve increased the drafting effect and given it (3) new catchy names. (I want a job in the Zwift marketing department!)
-after 3 paragraphs of waffle (again, it’s a job I could really do!) they are concluding that a stronger draft effect will encourage break aways? Hmmm.... anyone see why that makes no sense or is it just me?
berty bassett
Legendary Member
- Location
- I'boro
i know its easy done - but i am confused again ! - does this mean they have made it easier or harder to race ?
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
The suggestion is, people will be more encouraged to make breakaway moves, because once a group has been formed there will be better opportunity to recover in the group as the draft effect has been amplified.
