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mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I find that hard to believe over the course of a number of miles. The OP refers to farm entrances and grassy passing places so it is not true to say there was nowhere to pull over.
There are some narrow roads with no passing places for a couple of miles on the fens. I explained why some farm entrances aren't safe for some bikes and passing places are usually tarmac not grassy - grass usually means the verge and dangers lurk under the grass.
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
There are some narrow roads with no passing places for a couple of miles on the fens. I explained why some farm entrances aren't safe for some bikes and passing places are usually tarmac not grassy - grass usually means the verge and dangers lurk under the grass.
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jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
I find that hard to believe over the course of a number of miles. The OP refers to farm entrances and grassy passing places so it is not true to say there was nowhere to pull over.
Why should a cyclist get off his bike and climb onto a grass verge to allow a car to pass?

Do tractors drive into the hedges to let cars by? Do dumper trucks? Etc......no they dont

Just cause hes a cyclist it doesnt mean he has to stop and climb off to let people pass
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
I find that hard to believe over the course of a number of miles. The OP refers to farm entrances and grassy passing places so it is not true to say there was nowhere to pull over.
He also refers to everytime one of these places came available, cars were coming in the other direction, which made it more difficult to stop safely
 

tyred

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Why should a cyclist get off his bike and climb onto a grass verge to allow a car to pass?

Do tractors drive into the hedges to let cars by? Do dumper trucks? Etc......no they dont

Just cause hes a cyclist it doesnt mean he has to stop and climb off to let people pass

Because a bike is small, light and it can be easily done. Not so with a dumper truck.

You don't need to do it if your bike is so fragile it can't cope with a little bit of grass but it's a thing called courtesy and works both ways.
 
I will bet my wife's bike that there weren't safe places to overtake nicely which wouldn't involve great inconvenience to the cyclist.

It was a country lane ffs, don't use it if getting somewhere fast is your priority. The op had to drive for 2 WHOLE MILES. This isn't about the cyclist being inconsiderate it's about a driver wanting a cyvlist to stop, lose momentum in a grassy patch to save a driver a few minutes of their perceived more important progress.
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
Because a bike is small, light and it can be easily done. Not so with a dumper truck.

You don't need to do it if your bike is so fragile it can't cope with a little bit of grass but it's a thing called courtesy and works both ways.
I couldnt give a monkeys if the bike is small, why should he go to that inconvience just for the sake of two miles at 15/20mph.....so approx 6 mins of the drivers time

Sheesh........good job he wasnt driving on the country roads around me
 

tyred

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Location
Ireland
I couldnt give a monkeys if the bike is small, why should he go to that inconvience just for the sake of two miles at 15/20mph.....so approx 6 mins of the drivers time

Sheesh........good job he wasnt driving on the country roads around me

That's okay, you make your choice, I'll make mine but don't complain if some tosspot takes offence and remember that courtesy works both ways.

I live in a rural area with an awful lot of single track roads and whether driving or cycling, it is normal to pull into a farm entrance or whatever to let faster traffic past. Neither my bikes or cars have suffered any ill effects from doing so.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
That's okay, you make your choice, I'll make mine but don't complain if some tosspot takes offence and remember that courtesy works both ways.
Does it? I struggle to remember the last motorist who pulled over to let me overtake when I was travelling faster on a cycle - I can remember more cases where MGIF kicked in, there was a bad overtake followed by hard braking in front of me for an obstruction that I could have passed but their fat car couldn't!

I live in a rural area with an awful lot of single track roads and whether driving or cycling, it is normal to pull into a farm entrance or whatever to let faster traffic past. Neither my bikes or cars have suffered any ill effects from doing so.
Ah, the storied land of Ireland, where every farm gateway is well-maintained! If that's true, then I wish Irish farmers owned more of our farms :laugh:
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
What im struggling with here is - the cyclist must inconvenience himself, so he doesnt inconvinience the driver/op and in doing so, saving the driver/op a few minutes of his time, while putting himself at risk

If it was me, i would carry on cycling until i found a safe and convinient place to slow down and pull to oneside allowing the monster truck to go by. If no such place, then he can wait. As my own safety is my concern and not the drivers preciuos few minutes.

If its different in ireland then enjoy the sanctiary and freedom of the roads with out the inconvinience of inconvinience ;)
 

jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
You get to a point where you feel like drawing along side winding down the window and giving him a gentle nudge into a ditch.
Then you should have your drivers licence revoked and made to walk everywhere on one leg - as the above sort of actions is what causes serious accidents and endangers lives
 
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