Women 'arrested for riding bicycles in Iran'

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classic33

Leg End Member
A group of women has reportedly been arrested for riding bicycles in Iran and made to sign pledges not to repeat the “violation”.

They were planning to participate in a cycling event in the north-western city of Marivan when police told them a new government directive had barred women riding bicycles in public.

The opposition National Council of Resistance of Iran said officers ordered them to sign written pledges vowing not to repeat the “unlawful violation” and took several women who protested into custody.

http://newsok.com/article/5511619
 

steve50

Disenchanted Member
Location
West Yorkshire
I've read something similar to this in the past, a group of Iranian women were planning to do a protest ride to highlight the the draconian rules that stop them from doing simple things like bike riding. No more than you might expect from a country where women are regarded and treated as second rate citizens.
 
A Fatwa is the pronouncement of an expert in religious law, and is not a universal law. The status depends on the authority of the individual making the pronouncement. The definition I fund most helpful was that it had the standing of an "expert witness"


There are a number of conflicting "Fatwas" on cycling that are drawn from a range of interpretations.

This is a typical example:


Praise be to Allaah.

The woman is required to cover all of her body in front of non-mahram men with clothes that are loose and will not show the size of her limbs and are not see-through.

The basic principle is that it is permissible for a woman to ride animals, just as women used to ride camels and so on at the time of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). al-Bukhaari (5365) and Muslim (2527) narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The best women who ride camels are the women of Quraysh.”

Some fuqaha’ forbade women to ride horses except in cases of necessity such as jihad or Hajj, and they gave as the reason for that the fact that it is an imitation of men, and because of the reports that the women who do that are cursed, but that is a hadeeth that is not saheeh.

It says in al-Durr al-Mukhtaar: A Muslim woman should not ride an animal because of the hadeeth. This applies if it is for leisure, but if it is for a need such as a campaign or Hajj or some religious or worldly interest concerning which she has no other option, then there is nothing wrong with it.

Ibn ‘Aabideen said in his Haashiyah (6/423): The phrase “because of the hadeeth” refers to a hadeeth in al-Dhakheerah which says “May Allah curse the women on saddles.” But al-Madani narrated from Abu’l-Tayyib that there is no basis for it, i.e., there is no source for the hadeeth in this wording but the meaning is proven. In al-Bukhaari and elsewhere it says: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) cursed men who imitate women and women who imitate men. In al-Tabaraani it says: A woman passed by the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) carrying a bow and he said: May Allah curse women who imitate men and men who imitate women.

The words “but if it is for a need such as a campaign” and so on mean: it is stipulated that she should be covered and she should be with her husband or a mahram. The words “for some religious interest” refer to something like travelling in order to uphold ties of kinship. End quote.

If a woman rides a bicycle in front of men there is the possibility that she may become uncovered and part of her body may appear or the shape of her body may appear when she moves and air flows around her. For this reason it is not permissible for her to do that except in the case of necessity or urgent need, on condition that she wear clothes that cover her, with pants and socks underneath.

We asked Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) a previous question, which was as follows: Is it permissible for a Muslim woman living in a kaafir country to ride a bicycle or motorbike wearing complete hijab?

He replied: I do not think this is allowed, because she may be caught up with pursued.




The No 1 Muslim Ladies' Cycling Club
gives an interesting UK perspective
 

steveindenmark

Legendary Member
A women's critical mass rally is needed over there.

And I don't support critical mass rallies. But there is always the exception.
 

jarlrmai

Veteran
A women's critical mass rally is needed over there.

And I don't support critical mass rallies. But there is always the exception.

But Steve I thought the law was the law whether we liked it or not and we had to follow it?
 

winjim

Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
Let's be fair and not tarnish an entire country with the views of its government and its religious rulers. The owner of my LBS rode through Iran on a rebuilt 1960s Metisse, and says the people he met there were the nicest, friendliest and most generous you could ever hope to meet. Lots of folk putting him up, feeding him, helping with the motorbike and generally being pleasant. He really enjoyed it there.
 
Let's be fair and not tarnish an entire country with the views of its government and its religious rulers. The owner of my LBS rode through Iran on a rebuilt 1960s Metisse, and says the people he met there were the nicest, friendliest and most generous you could ever hope to meet. Lots of folk putting him up, feeding him, helping with the motorbike and generally being pleasant. He really enjoyed it there.
Might have been different if he was female or gay.
 

steveindenmark

Legendary Member
But Steve I thought the law was the law whether we liked it or not and we had to follow it?

This is oppression, pure and simple. You actually vote for the people who make your laws. If you don't like the laws, you can change the people who make them. They cannot.
 

mick1836

Über Member
How did they know it was a woman?
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or do ONLY Women wear burkas?
 
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