Windows 11

[FrankCrank]

Upgrading to an SSD is definitely the best bang for your buck - no other upgrade comes close.
Without this, like driving your car with the handbrake permanently on.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

We've still got 5 years of support in W10, so no real need to panic just yet.

Plus you can use Windows Defender Application Control to lock down your PC so only authorised programs and scripts can run. Microsoft’s built in whitelisting solution.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

One thing I would say is Win 11 feels a bit 'snappier' opening apps etc up. No difference in gaming that I can see.

That won’t last. All new Windows OS start off snappy then put on weight

 

[Ming the Merciless]

What’s the worst that can happen? I have a backup on the Windows 10:installation I can always return to if needed. 🙂

How often have you tried restoring from backup?

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Amazon have a number of 500gb ssds at £40 or just under. Single best upgrade you can give an old pc or laptop.

PC isn’t old , less than 10 years. HDD give far more bang for buck if Microsoft don’t do large updates to Windows every bloody week.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Upgrading to an SSD is definitely the best bang for your buck - no other upgrade comes close.
Without this, like driving your car with the handbrake permanently on.

Not true. The slowness is only due to the constant Windows updates being applied during startup. My desktop with HDD booted up more than fast enough when W10 came out. Outside of startup things are more than quick enough. But I don’t have PC on all the time and it often whilst it’s applying the updates that I want to be doing something.

 

[Rezillo]

PC isn’t old , less than 10 years. HDD give far more bang for buck if Microsoft don’t do large updates to Windows every bloody week.

My eight year old PC that I've just replaced was booting Windows 10 in well under ten seconds from the bios screen appearing, and that was with all the latest updates. The disk activity associated with installing updates has far less impact on using a PC with an ssd than one with an hd.

 

[steverob]

If it is only two years old, TPM should be present in firmware. You may have an empty TPM socket on the motherboard but the bios should have a setting to switch between firmware TPM and the (assumed empty) TPM socket, which would give the No Security Device response. I don't know why motherboards have both but I guess if there were to be TPM v3, you could disable the firmware TPM2, plug in a TPMv3 module and use that.

This turned out to be the solution - I'd already found all the settings for the motherboard TPM in the BIOS and switched them on with no success, but it turns out I had firmware TPM which was hidden away in a completely different sub-menu and was called Platform Trust Technology as you suggested (in fact I had to turn it on in two different places). Would never have found that without your prompting!

Still in no hurry to upgrade however.

 

[Grant Fondo]

My 7 year old desktop, then current fastest Intel i7 CPU, 16 Gb RAM , 1Tb SSD, is officially unsupported but been running W11 for nearly three weeks and not missed a beat. I know of others with similar success and have not heard of anyone in my circle of colleagues having a ‘less stable’ machine.

Glad to hear that . So did you install via ISO file? Oh, and can you get Win 11 updates? If so, thats a result

 

[Grant Fondo]

Not true. The slowness is only due to the constant Windows updates being applied during startup. My desktop with HDD booted up more than fast enough when W10 came out. Outside of startup things are more than quick enough. But I don’t have PC on all the time and it often whilst it’s applying the updates that I want to be doing something.

Turn off Auto Updates and do manually when you want to? I use Norton to block all cr*ppy startup programmes as well. Boots up in a couple of seconds, and instantly if left in 'sleep' mode.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

'Moving in' didn't take long.

Cleaned out the start up app thingy that was full of crap pinned apps and made it my own.

Shoved the pinned gubbins on the task bar over to their proper place on the left. None of this new-fangled centralised nonsense for me.

Went wild and changed my coloured bits from Seafoam to Teal at the same time too just for the hell of it.

All is well in the world.

 

[fossyant]

My 7 year old desktop, then current fastest Intel i7 CPU, 16 Gb RAM , 1Tb SSD, is officially unsupported but been running W11 for nearly three weeks and not missed a beat. I know of others with similar success and have not heard of anyone in my circle of colleagues having a ‘less stable’ machine.

Thats interesting. Got two fourth Gen i7's in the house. Might try.

 

[Grant Fondo]

Thats interesting. Got two fourth Gen i7's in the house. Might try.

MS saying 8th gen+ always looked iffy to me. I would have thought anything beyond Skylake would be fine, perhaps older like your gen 4. Let us know how you get on

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Turn off Auto Updates and do manually when you want to? I use Norton to block all cr*ppy startup programmes as well. Boots up in a couple of seconds, and instantly if left in 'sleep' mode.

Didn’t think you could turn it off in win10. I’ll have a look again at options shortly

 

[Alex321]

Not true. The slowness is only due to the constant Windows updates being applied during startup. My desktop with HDD booted up more than fast enough when W10 came out. Outside of startup things are more than quick enough. But I don’t have PC on all the time and it often whilst it’s applying the updates that I want to be doing something.

It is your opinion that they are "quick enough", and for you, that may be true.

But that certainly doesn't make what he said untrue at all. There is absolutely no doubt at all,that if you are looking to improve the performance of your PC,and it doesn't currently have one, then adding an SSD and moving the OS and programs to it very much gives the best bang for the buck. The fact you don't feel the need for faster startup doesn't negate that point.

And you are completely wrong about the slowness being "only due to the constant Windows updates being applied during startup".

That has an effect every now and then. Probably once every 2-3 weeks on average, and it isn't all that big an inconvenience. It is trivial compared to the gains from an SSD.