Who's in the wrong?

[craven2354]

25mph is pretty fast for 5 miles, I take it you are race fit the BBAR was only won with 28mph

it was a slight downhill and i was in a rythem in top gear >< was the first 5 miles of my trip i may add ><

 

[Grizzly]

I would say from a legal point of view (providing that you are in a marked cycle lane bordered by a solid white line) the lorry driver was in the wrong for illegal use of his horn. I agree with everyone else in that I think it is suicide to cycle past a vehicle on its left, I would say however that I would do so with care in the situation of queuing traffic.

 

[Thomk]

What sort of abuse did you receive and was it from the driver or the instructor? Did you hear what they were saying?

 

[craven2354]

What sort of abuse did you receive and was it from the driver or the instructor? Did you hear what they were saying?

I didn't quite hear them (was very windy) but I could hear somebody shouting the abuse does t bother me as I now know it was a stupid thing to do

 

[Izakbar]

Him just as I got past him he sounded his horn a few times and shouted some abuse was I in the wrong even tho I was in a cycle lane ?

End of the day it does not really matter who is in the wrong... you just need to survive the ride

I only started riding in January 2011, I used to be quite an agressive driver in my "boy racer VXR".. however, since riding I have calmed down significantly on the bike and in the car. It does not matter who is in the right or wrong - if you're dead!

I would rather just back off a bit now if I see a numpty ahead... too many close calls.

 

[apollo179]

[QUOTE 1562069"]
No shoot, so undertaking a truck ain't dangerous?
[/quote]

Is undertaking a truck dangerous when theres no possibility of it turning left ?

 

[xxmimixx]

YES! there are too many possibilities that he might still crush you because he cant see you or even if he can, he might not have time to react.
What if he swerves to the left
because of oncoming dangerous over take
because of car pulling out on this right
obstacle on the road
drops his contact lense!
looses temporary control of his truck to pick up a call on his mobile...
the list is endless
dont risk it!

 

[craven2354]

YES! there are too many possibilities that he might still crush you because he cant see you or even if he can, he might not have time to react.
What if he swerves to the left
because of oncoming dangerous over take
because of car pulling out on this right
obstacle on the road
drops his contact lense!
looses temporary control of his truck to pick up a call on his mobile...
the list is endless
dont risk it!

He knew I was there I had been behind him for about a mile and he was a leaner doubt he would be answering his phone

 

[apollo179]

YES! there are too many possibilities that he might still crush you because he cant see you or even if he can, he might not have time to react.
What if he swerves to the left
because of oncoming dangerous over take
because of car pulling out on this right
obstacle on the road
drops his contact lense!
looses temporary control of his truck to pick up a call on his mobile...
the list is endless
dont risk it!

Yes i guess so. thanks.
Although the same could be said to some degree of other traffic, but i do get your point that hgvs are particularly dangerous with the blind spots , and just being big and dangerous.

 

[xxmimixx]

He knew I was there I had been behind him for about a mile and he was a leaner doubt he would be answering his phone

I apprecciate that he knew and it can be frustrating knowing that but the bottom line is, the principle is not worth your skin

Yes i guess so. thanks.
Although the same could be said to some degree of other traffic, but i do get your point that hgvs are particularly dangerous with the blind spots , and just being big and dangerous.

yes indeed but with a smaller vehicle like a car you have more leeway as a sharp brake might give enough time to let vehicle pass, plus a car is a lot smaller and lighter, however I wouldnt want to get too close to a lorry in any direction, beside, in front, behind me...

 

[LosingFocus]

[QUOTE 1562069"]
No shoot, so undertaking a truck ain't dangerous?
[/quote]

[Edit] Yeah whatever...[/edit]

The OP referred to to the horn being used as a form of abuse, not to alert him to danger.

 

[apollo179]

I apprecciate that he knew and it can be frustrating knowing that but the bottom line is, the principle is not worth your skin




yes indeed but with a smaller vehicle like a car you have more leeway as a sharp brake might give enough time to let vehicle pass, plus a car is a lot smaller and lighter, however I wouldnt want to get too close to a lorry in any direction, beside, in front, behind me...

Yes you are right - hgvs are best given a wide berth at all times.
I would caveat this with saying that a lot of cyclists do have an impulse to do silly dangerous stuff just the same as motorists have an impulse to drive dangerously - speeding , tailgating etc etc. Its is an impulse that instincts of self preservation should help cyclists resist as being on a bike is so much more vulnerable. Good to be reminded not to do stupid stuff occasionally.

 

[Alien8]

Well, whatever the rights and wrongs, take it easy - I wouldn't want anybody to be on the end of something like this.

 

[craven2354]

Btw the just FYI it wasn't a lorry it was a hgv the ones with the tail lifts on the back

 

[HLaB]

Is undertaking a truck dangerous when theres no possibility of it turning left ?

I'd say yes, if there is any possibility of it deviating slightly left (even if just by a few inches or less) its not a place I'd want to be.