Who are the mods?
- Thread starter Jezston
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tdr1nka
Taking the biscuit
- Location
- SE London, Bandit Country
Jetzson mate, the mods and Admin have always responded to your requests and complaints but now you've been given what is essentially a slap on the wrist, you sing a different tune?
Please remember mods are not paid code their commitment nor are we mind readers.
Your post was simply withdrawn as unsuitable and you were given a warning. The same would have happened to any other member.
Are you above equal treatment and if so why?
To be fair you got fairly well treated, had the thread stayed on the board and we then received complaints from other forum members the matter would have been discussed by moderators in a very different light.
If you still feel aggrieved might it not be better to bring the matter up with Admin before opining to the forum?
You made an error, fair dues, but you need to accept that we moderate the forum as a whole and not to suit the sensitivity of particular individuals.
Please remember mods are not paid code their commitment nor are we mind readers.
Your post was simply withdrawn as unsuitable and you were given a warning. The same would have happened to any other member.
Are you above equal treatment and if so why?
To be fair you got fairly well treated, had the thread stayed on the board and we then received complaints from other forum members the matter would have been discussed by moderators in a very different light.
If you still feel aggrieved might it not be better to bring the matter up with Admin before opining to the forum?
You made an error, fair dues, but you need to accept that we moderate the forum as a whole and not to suit the sensitivity of particular individuals.
I'm just expressing how I feel about how a situation was dealt with on the Support and Feedback forum which I thought was an appropriate place to discuss it, but mostly I was just trying to raise whether it is appropriate for mods to not be labelled as such.
I'm not trying to stir any trouble up, I've been trying to resolve the situation, and had already contacted admin about it. I feel that such situations should be dealt with sensitively.
I've moved the issue over to PMs so I'd appreciate it if this thread could be left to discuss what I was originally posting about - that whether mods should be 'visible', and leave personal stuff out of it now.
I'm not trying to stir any trouble up, I've been trying to resolve the situation, and had already contacted admin about it. I feel that such situations should be dealt with sensitively.
I've moved the issue over to PMs so I'd appreciate it if this thread could be left to discuss what I was originally posting about - that whether mods should be 'visible', and leave personal stuff out of it now.
martint235
Dog on a bike
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- Welling
It is a public forum and I'm glad it is moderated. Personally I don't care if the mods are known or not so long as they are both a. fair and efficient b. seen to be fair and efficient
I think you have too much time on your hands....who cares who the mods are so long as the site is run in a manner that suits everyone then we should all be thankful.
Oh and we all know about not using inappropriate language on an open forum.
Midnight
New Member
- Location
- On the coast
I can appreciate than Mods might want to remain incognito, and on another forum I use, when a Mod replied to a thread the OP mistook his comments for moderation. But I think Jez has a point about recieving PMs from someone not known by a member to be a Mod. More regular members might be expected to know who the majority of Mods are, but what about newcommers and less frequent visitors?
Is it possible that when a Mod sends a PM to a member, they indicate in that PM that they are a Mod, either under a blanket 'Mod' username, or include a 'Moderation' banner in the PM?
Is it possible that when a Mod sends a PM to a member, they indicate in that PM that they are a Mod, either under a blanket 'Mod' username, or include a 'Moderation' banner in the PM?
Well, first thing I'd like to say is, modding is a bloody tough job! I am not one, now, anywhere, but I remember my brief stint as a sort of half-mod on ACF. I didn't enjoy it one bit! Hats off to those who stick it out with the task, on here!
As regards visible or invisible mods - a tricky one. I'd be inclined to go for visibility. Or alternatively, all moderator actions to be under the common login of 'Moderators', hence keeping it totally anonymous. The trouble with the present system is, if I post something naughty and we then see my post being labelled "This post has been edited by Ianrauk" this immediately 'outs' Ian as a mod! Not ideal.
Jezston, I'd agree with what others say here - let the matter drop. But if you're interested in my experience of really bad modding - on another forum, not a cycling-related one - PM me. There are some things I won't post about openly. Modding here is pretty damned good by comparison.
As regards visible or invisible mods - a tricky one. I'd be inclined to go for visibility. Or alternatively, all moderator actions to be under the common login of 'Moderators', hence keeping it totally anonymous. The trouble with the present system is, if I post something naughty and we then see my post being labelled "This post has been edited by Ianrauk" this immediately 'outs' Ian as a mod! Not ideal.
Jezston, I'd agree with what others say here - let the matter drop. But if you're interested in my experience of really bad modding - on another forum, not a cycling-related one - PM me. There are some things I won't post about openly. Modding here is pretty damned good by comparison.
tdr1nka
Taking the biscuit
- Location
- SE London, Bandit Country
I strongly suspect that you wouldn't have raised the issue had you not been ticked off for posting something unacceptable on the forum.
No one was to know you were coming back to put NSFW in the thread title, which is neither an excuse or apology, so the thread was removed and you were warned off accordingly.
Maybe you need to reflect on hasty postings and taking a simple warning, which you blew out of proportion incidentally, before pulling all the Mods into the affray because you feel unfairly dealt with.
As I have said before, you made an error of judgement and got told off before you could rectify said error.
You then chose to air the matter on thread and Ian pointed out your overplaying his PM.
It's not such a big deal, take it on the chin and move on.
No one was to know you were coming back to put NSFW in the thread title, which is neither an excuse or apology, so the thread was removed and you were warned off accordingly.
Maybe you need to reflect on hasty postings and taking a simple warning, which you blew out of proportion incidentally, before pulling all the Mods into the affray because you feel unfairly dealt with.
As I have said before, you made an error of judgement and got told off before you could rectify said error.
You then chose to air the matter on thread and Ian pointed out your overplaying his PM.
It's not such a big deal, take it on the chin and move on.
I agree with this. I think that people who use the power to moderate a board should do it openly. If they are afraid of negative feedback, afraid to stand up to the reactions to their actions, then maybe they shouldn't be mods.
However, that's just my opinion and I know it counts for little because, as has been previously posted, Shaun owns and runs the board as he sees fit.
goo_mason
Champion barbed-wire hurdler
- Location
- Leith, Edinburgh
There are some sites I've been a member of where the mods ban you if you're a member of a rival site that they don't like, or if you mention a product sold by a particular vendor who they've fallen out with. It's like dealing with a bunch of spoilt ten year-olds. They're all visible as mods on the site.
One of the DE Shaving sites I'm on has mods but they're not visible as such. The site is friendly & a pleasure to be a member of - much like CC (that was £5 you promised me, wasn't it Admin?
) Is it REALLY a problem that the mods are invisible as long as they're not acting like megalomaniacal tyrants?
One of the DE Shaving sites I'm on has mods but they're not visible as such. The site is friendly & a pleasure to be a member of - much like CC (that was £5 you promised me, wasn't it Admin?
) Is it REALLY a problem that the mods are invisible as long as they're not acting like megalomaniacal tyrants?
martint235
Dog on a bike
- Location
- Welling
I agree that if you receive a message from a Moderator or if a Moderator takes action on a post, this should be labelled as such. Whether it's with the mod's name or not doesn't really matter to me.
I also agree with what has been said about this being a well moderated forum. There are some where the mods do very little and others where it's out of hand. I'm a member of a mobile phone forum where in the past you could always go for help, no matter how stupid the question may have seemed. The worst you could expect was "You could have searched first" but invariably with the answer/advice you needed. Lately however it's become a preserve of the know-alls with petulant "how dare you come on our forum and ask such a noob question" and unfortunately the mods are joining in the bashing.
I also agree with what has been said about this being a well moderated forum. There are some where the mods do very little and others where it's out of hand. I'm a member of a mobile phone forum where in the past you could always go for help, no matter how stupid the question may have seemed. The worst you could expect was "You could have searched first" but invariably with the answer/advice you needed. Lately however it's become a preserve of the know-alls with petulant "how dare you come on our forum and ask such a noob question" and unfortunately the mods are joining in the bashing.
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- The TerrorVortex
Jez - if you post something as provocative as that, it will be modded.
You can play the 'I'm really offended' card, or you can post about people being f**king c**ts.
You can't have it both ways.
You can play the 'I'm really offended' card, or you can post about people being f**king c**ts.
You can't have it both ways.
I'm pretty new round here, and I find it a bit surprising that you can't tell who is a mod. There was an exchange on another thread that confused me quite a lot, because someone had edited someone else's post and I wondered how they could do that - but if they were a mod that would make sense.
I don't think the OP is throwing his toys out of the pram over this - the original issue and the discussion of visible/invisible mods can be separated IMHO.
I don't think the OP is throwing his toys out of the pram over this - the original issue and the discussion of visible/invisible mods can be separated IMHO.
Mark_Robson
Senior Member
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- West Boldon Tyne & Wear
For many moons I was an admin on a torrent site and my main responsibility was managing the moderating team. I gave it up because I became increasingly frustrated with the attitude of some of the mods towards members of the site. Some of those guys were really on a power trip and it stifled the forums and made things unpleasant for everyone.
That said, I can honestly say that the standard of moderating on this site is excellent. I have never experienced any evidence of mod power here and I really appreciate the low key behind the scenes moderating that goes on.
That said, I can honestly say that the standard of moderating on this site is excellent. I have never experienced any evidence of mod power here and I really appreciate the low key behind the scenes moderating that goes on.
Rhythm Thief
Legendary Member
- Location
- Ross on Wye
Wot he said. And, incidentally, after all the time we mods have spent running around dealing with stuff Jezston's reported, you'd think he'd respond a bit more graciously for being pulled up about posting offensive material on the site ...
