Genesis cdf would get my vote
Have you looked at some of the latest offerings from Marin ??
Not looked @ Marin but I do like some of the Genesis offerings
Genesis cdf would get my vote
Have you looked at some of the latest offerings from Marin ??
Also the difficulty in getting the correct pads in the wilds whereas Canti/V-brake/Caliper pads are available in any small bike shop (as are square taper BBs or even better replacement bearing sets for loose bearing square taper ones)Interestingly, a number of the European manufacturers of high end tour bikes are avoiding disc brakes. They seem to think that they increase the chances of spoke snappage. They're stick with rim brakes.
Missed that post originally, it is certainly something I thought of doing after a loaded descent of the Izoard the canti's don't exactly inspire confidence
I'm not convinced by disc brakes for touring, but I see you've picked that on all of them,
+ 1 to this advice, particularly Spa. Their tourer is great value.Have a look at Spa Cycles as well, they do some great bikes, my friend won one in a competition, a titanium tourer and he uses it for work and says its fantastic.
I'd also look at the Surly Long Haul Trucker and the Genesis Tour De Fer, I've seen both of them in a bike shop and they are both lovely bikes.
I have a Hewitt Cheviot SE. Very nice but I think overpriced. The frame alone is now I think over £600 which is bonkers for a Taiwanese factory built frame. I have just bought an entire new quality tourer for £700 (admitedly end of line) The Spa is I think better value.As User46386 says have a look at Spa cycles in Harrogate. The Specialized Sequoia is worth looking at together with the Salsa Vaya and the Hewitt Cheviot.
I agreed the Spa bikes are great value. I have a Hewitt Chiltern which doesn't have front fork pannier mounts and an extra set of bottle cage mounts but apart from that is I think identical to the Cheviot. It is a lovely bike, hand built wheels and superbly finished but has a new price of £1600 which is to say the least somewhat overpriced.I have a Hewitt Cheviot SE. Very nice but I think overpriced. The frame alone is now I think over £600 which is bonkers for a Taiwanese factory built frame. I have just bought an entire new quality tourer for £700 (admitedly end of line) The Spa is I think better value.