muzz we usually do regular distances of 60 miles on the road bikes,so dont carry a lot.I got the brompton to allow the wife when sightseeing to go one direction 30 miles then jump on a bus back,I return at the present moment by full size bike she likes the 30 40 miles distance above this she starts to tire a little and after a coffee break quite likes the idea of returning via bus. If we where touring longer distances then thats a different equation,saying that i would probably still take the load.