When is it unsafe to be overtaken?

[BigSteev]

Oh yeh, what do you know?

If you want to sit and read books all your time, your missing out on the chance to go out and learn.

FACT

So you learnt by experimentation. Good job they all went right for you. Wonder what would have happened if they hadn't? Could have been messy. Absolutely nothing wrong with studying a bit of theory before trying to put it into practice, in fact that's a pretty sensible and responsible way to go about things. I'm sure my commute would be much nicer and safer if some of those people on bikes had followed that idea rather than adopting the "I've not riden a bike for 30 years but I'm sure it'll be fine" approach.

 

[Origamist]

Personally, I would not recommend relying on a single cycling text. You can also find advice, tips and discussions regarding best practice in published works by: Richard Ballantine, John Forester, Robert Hurst et al. .

 

[Joe24]

Personally, I would not recommend relying on a single cycling text. You can also find advice, tips and discussions regarding best practice in published works by: Richard Ballantine, John Forester, Robert Hurst et al. .

Dont swear, cyclecraft is like the bible, or the god for some people on here, i wouldnt go against it, or recommend another book if i were you, you might get kicked off.

 

[Origamist]

Dont swear, cyclecraft is like the bible, or the god for some people on here, i wouldnt go against it, or recommend another book if i were you, you might get kicked off.

I think I'll be OK - I have three different editions of Cyclecraft...

 

[Joe24]

I think I'll be OK - I have three different editions of Cyclecraft...

Why? Didnt you learn by the first one?

 

[purplepolly]

I think I'll be OK - I have three different editions of Cyclecraft...

different versions of the bible can be pretty controversial just look what happened when it got translated into English.

But seriously, Joe, having dangers pointed out to you is just a short cut. It's like learning the guitar, sure you can learn by yourself, but it's much quicker to have a good teacher who'll give you hints and tips, and it also helps avoid picking up bad habits that could lead to RSI.

 

[Joe24]

different versions of the bible can be pretty controversial just look what happened when it got translated into English.

But seriously, Joe, having dangers pointed out to you is just a short cut. It's like learning the guitar, sure you can learn by yourself, but it's much quicker to have a good teacher who'll give you hints and tips, and it also helps avoid picking up bad habits that could lead to RSI.

Or, you could go out, go through a pinch point and find that you get someone go past close and not feel like it was safe, so next time you move out to block the c***s from overtaking there


simple

 

[Origamist]

Why? Didnt you learn by the first one?

I was interested to see how (what is considered) cycling best practice has evolved.

 

[Origamist]

Or, you could go out, go through a pinch point and find that you get someone go past close and not feel like it was safe, so next time you move out to block the daffodils from overtaking there


simple

Or you could go through a pinch point, block the traffic and get abused, bullied into the kerb etc. Some people would then consider it unwise to take the lane in such circumstances.

 

[Joe24]

Or you could go through a pinch point, block the traffic and get abused, bullied into the kerb etc. Some people would then consider it unwise to take the lane in such circumstances.

Is that not just part and parcel of cycling? The getting abuse bit?

 

[Origamist]

Is that not just part and parcel of cycling? The getting abuse bit?

It can be. However, some people simply don't want to deal with the abuse and aggressive driving - particularly when they are adopting a safety tactic in order to minimise close overtakes.

 

[fossyant]

Come on Joe....no need for this attitude.

I've never seen an issue of cyclecraft, but I believe it's a useful guide. Some folk are natural cyclists, some come into it many years later.

I cycled from an early age, so built up my 'knowledge' of what to do - you are one of the few youngsters that do these days - bet there aren't many young cyclists riding properly near you......

Many folk come into cycling a lot later on in life, and really don't know what's expected - that's why the book is OK.

There have been some of those 'pedestrian islands' built on my main training run (and most South Manchester cyclist's route into Cheshire) - a wide nice road has been reduced into 3-4 nasty pinch points....... not nice and it's as you reach the country... it's a case of looking behind, eye ball drivers then going for Primary on a 40 limit road, then glancing back at the drivers again, and so far, they have all been OK......

 

[HJ]

Agree entirely, I was trying to shut Joe up without a long debate

Sorry purplepolly you weren't the target...

 

[abchandler]

Joe24, do you not realise that different people learn things in different ways. It's why car manufacturers produce brochures for cars AND let people take test drives. Try a bit of research into Learning styles, try the Other models section. You never know, you might learn something...

 

[beachcaster]

Oh yeh, what do you know?

If you want to sit and read books all your time, your missing out on the chance to go out and learn.

FACT

Yes lets burn all the books!

Just dont lets the facts cloud your judgement

barry