What Career shall I choose now?

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Ravenz

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cheadle hulme said:
I hope he's more economically astute than a plumber I spoke to.

hopefully he is and being young is still more or less a jobbing plumber.. which leaves him very vulnerable to the rather less than honourable other members of his profession...
 

Willow

Senior Member
Location
Surrey
Many schools do activity days/arts week and the like. Often paid individuals come into the school to do workshops with the children. Could you do something like this with the jewellry may have to think about what you would do for the boys though. Also perhaps you could sell what you make at school fairs and give small donation to PTAs.

Perhaps not huge sums of money but may boost the income while you decide what else is out there or, while you build up a business again.
 

Greedo

Guest
You've had quite a varied past!

Okay here's my thoughts.

I worked in recruitment for years before working for myself.

Here's the problem you have.

The job market is like anything else in this world. Supply and demand.

When there are loads of jobs about but hardly any candidates as everyone decent is working then it's a candidates market as anyone looking for a new job can be picky as loads of employers are looking for people. At the moment it's a employers market as there are loads and loads of similar people with similar skill sets looking for jobs. The employer in this case can be picky about who they take.

The problem you have and this is not personal as I don't know you but this is how most employers will view you. You are 48 and have had very varied work history. Some will look at you and think

  1. You are older
  2. You are a bit of a jack of all trades
  3. They'll question commitment to specific jobs and why you left and changed direction
They will put your cv at the bottom of a pile in most recruitment companies. Most recruitment people are lazy and if you don't fit in a box as a candidate they just stick you on a database and forget about you. I'm just being honest!

You are probably better getting yourself onto a plastering, tiling, plumbing course and setting up on your own to be honest. You don't have to be that skilled to do them and once you finish a course, get leaflets and cards printed, if you have a brain and can talk to people, you have a good chance of getting work. The tiler I use at the moment only has been on the go for 3 years and he's 37. I use him because he's smart, dedicated and CARES!! about his work. He's better than 80% of the tilers I've used in the past who have been doing it for years.

Good luck. Hope you get something sorted as it must be hard.
 

Willow

Senior Member
Location
Surrey
Greedo said:
You've had quite a varied past!

Okay here's my thoughts.

I worked in recruitment for years before working for myself.

Here's the problem you have.

The job market is like anything else in this world. Supply and demand.

When there are loads of jobs about but hardly any candidates as everyone decent is working then it's a candidates market as anyone looking for a new job can be picky as loads of employers are looking for people. At the moment it's a employers market as there are loads and loads of similar people with similar skill sets looking for jobs. The employer in this case can be picky about who they take.

The problem you have and this is not personal as I don't know you but this is how most employers will view you. You are 48 and have had very varied work history. Some will look at you and think

  1. You are older
  2. You are a bit of a jack of all trades
  3. They'll question commitment to specific jobs and why you left and changed direction
They will put your cv at the bottom of a pile in most recruitment companies. Most recruitment people are lazy and if you don't fit in a box as a candidate they just stick you on a database and forget about you. I'm just being honest!

You are probably better getting yourself onto a plastering, tiling, plumbing course and setting up on your own to be honest. You don't have to be that skilled to do them and once you finish a course, get leaflets and cards printed, if you have a brain and can talk to people, you have a good chance of getting work. The tiler I use at the moment only has been on the go for 3 years and he's 37. I use him because he's smart, dedicated and CARES!! about his work. He's better than 80% of the tilers I've used in the past who have been doing it for years.

Good luck. Hope you get something sorted as it must be hard.




Can I add a couple of basic things to this as well as a current work place scenario

a) Call and ask a couple of pertinent questions on the phone before putting in your application, may help get your name known


;) one of those questions might be asking if you can pay a visit to look around the company

c) get your application noticed - if the application is by paper copy it is worth buying some better quality paper in a different colour to white bog standard printer stuff. Put the application in a small presentation folder. It will get you noticed from the crowd.

d) phone and ask for feedback on all applications


I recently advertised for a school caretaker, rubbish pay but had 24 applications. The type of person I needed doesn't necessarily need to be good at filling out forms. I specifically put visits to the school were welcome and only two people came. One of those has an interview the other didn't apply. A member of staff's husband applied and he got no interview because he made absolutely no effort with his application form and even though he only lived across the road he didn't come in to find out more about the job. I am interviewing 5 people 3 of which are over 60, (I can't remember the age of the other two) 3 applications ticked all the boxes, one application was awful but the chap phoned the school and seemed worth interviewing, the other didn't score as much on my points system but he's my wild card and the reference I've since had is glowing.

I phoned all the applicants who were not called to interview. I had an amazing chat with a guy who had put confidential information regarding a criminal record in his applciation. If he had phoned or visited the school he may well have got himself an interview though the criminal record may then have become an issue.
 

BigonaBianchi

Yes I can, Yes I am, Yes I did...Repeat.
why do so many employers have a hang up on age? Firstly they need to realise it is illegal, but that aside why do they seem to favour younger less experienced peeps than those who have built up a shed load of work..and perhaps more importantly 'life' experience?

My best guess is that these people are often no more than kids themselves and feel uncomfortable with older 'subordinates'. Thats a cynical view...but why all this agism rubbish???
 
Locksmith.

Training courses are from three days to two weeks, depending on how thorough you want to go into it. It costs less than a grand to do the full one, you are going into a "Distress" industry which shouldn't be effected much by the recession and a shortage of locksmiths mean you can charge the earth for callouts.

Try getting a locksmith if you doubt me.
 

Young Un

New Member
Location
Worcestershire
Over The Hill said:
Wow - thanks for the response guys!

Lots to read through and ponder on. Pornstar seems top of the list at the moment. Not sure how to break it to Mrs OTH.

Start off your career with her as your mistress??
 

BigonaBianchi

Yes I can, Yes I am, Yes I did...Repeat.
I think it's pretty sad that employers discriminate against age and illness. Oh sure none of them do it blatently, but the law allows them all kinds of ways of doing it.

Sure..if I put myself in the position of head honcho I can understand why they need to be careful...nobody needs to end up with a poor performing no hoper as an employee, but you what...I reckon there is a HUGE talent pool out there above the age of 40 who have some kind of illness, and I reckon some of those people are likely to have alot more to offer than most candidates. I would be extremely happy to staff my business with these people & I bet i could learn a lot from them as well.

I think many employers have their heads in the sand and are missing out on a lot.
 

Ravenz

Guest
Greedo said:
You are 48 and have had very varied work history. Some will look at you and think

  1. You are older
  2. You are a bit of a jack of all trades
  3. They'll question commitment to specific jobs and why you left and changed direction
hmmm but perhaps being in the same job or employer for 20 to 25 .... years might hint at lackin in drive... inability to be flexible ... temerity in the facing up to change ..

we all know .. (my job hunting is always via agencies) that job applications are a lottery .. and actually I dont think it is an 'employers market' even now.... not if they want to find the right applicant .. but that takes a bit of work on their part and some nouse by the agency....

maybe it's my arrogance that shines thru :biggrin::becool::biggrin::becool::smile:

and I prepared to work now, as I have done, for minimum wage... that's my work ethic
are you?

btw won't be calling upon your services to find me a job. soz buddy
 
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