Weight loss pills etc

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Camrider

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Location
Cambridge
The trouble with weight loss products and fad diets like Atkins is that once you stop (because at some point you have to) you just put it all back on because you go back to your old ways. Sorting out a healthy diet and exercise routine may take you a while to get where you want to be (in my case 10 months to lose nearly 30 kg) but it is sustainable does not cost a penny (unless like me you reward yourself with a new bike as a reward)
 

Camrider

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Location
Cambridge
Whereas Aspirin

I don't use those either, but if I did that warning would be on the packet, I bet the snake oil makes no mention of any risk.
 
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BigonaBianchi

BigonaBianchi

Yes I can, Yes I am, Yes I did...Repeat.
yes yes yes..I know all that...and like I said .. the answer is to ride more eat less..BUT atm I cannot ride any more or eat much less and I am still gaining weight...I think its stress and medication related but hey ho...so I am going to try that grenade stuff as it looks like its got natural stuff in there instead of chemicals.
If it doesnt work I will jon the sceptics on here, if it works I will will be happier...i dont see the risk tbh..apart from a few quid
 

yello

Guest
The only time I have tried pills was in the 80s when I lived in the US and you could buy appetite suppressants from Woolworths and the like (not pharmacies, no need for a prescription).

I lost weight as I was eating less and going to the gym. I reckon the pills worked in that I wasn't feeling hungry all of the time.
 

david k

Hi
Location
North West
If it was as easy as taking a pill, we wouldnt have an obesity epidemic in this country

it shouldnt be looked on as a 'magic pill' but supplements and diet aids can and have helped people. As mentioned before we must realise that the diet will have to stop at some stage and be replaced by healthy eating and lifestyle no the old diet which has already put you where you didnt want to be, its obviously going to take you back there.

IMO diets such as milkshakes, meal replacement, atkins etc are fine to get big weight off but people should slowly stop and replace with healthy eating and lifestyle.

I dont judge those who chose to get some help, sometimes even the psychological effect can be positive, just dont rely upon that only.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
Not that long ago 'diet pills' were forms of speed, which will certainly make anyone lose weight pretty quickly - but would you want to pay the price?
That's what I was alluding to, above!

A mate of mine caught a nasty virus that messed up his thyroid gland. He ended up with a permanent heart rate of 180 bpm, felt like he was going to die, couldn't sleep, was agitated all the time, was dripping sweat and the weight fell off him so quickly that he was eating 6 huge meals a day and still couldn't stop getting thinner. Just like being a speed freak in fact ...

He eventually had his thyroid gland 'zapped' to bring it back to a healthy range of operation, went back to eating 3 normal-sized meals a day and his weight settled back to its old level.

So, if you don't mind being a speed freak for the rest of your life, can put up the symptoms mentioned above, plus the mental health damage that would almost inevitably follow - you know what to do! :wacko:

Alternatively ... You don't need to eat 'less', you need to eat 'different'. If you want to, you can eat huge quantities of many vegetables and not take in that many calories, as long as you don't accompany the veg with similar amounts of cheese. meat, bread and so on.
 

david k

Hi
Location
North West
If there was a benign pill that would make people lose weight, GPs would be handing them out free, and saving the NHS a fortune in all the obesity-related problems it has to tackle.

Good luck with the weight loss anyway - slow and sure is best, and you'll get there in the end.


dont think people are saying carry on as they are but take a pill, i think the question is if i diet and excersise more will taking a supplement help with weight loss. why do people insist on thinking that taking a pill means not doing anything else to support a healthy lifestyle
 

david k

Hi
Location
North West
That's what I was alluding to, above!

A mate of mine caught a nasty virus that messed up his thyroid gland. He ended up with a permanent heart rate of 180 bpm, felt like he was going to die, couldn't sleep, was agitated all the time, was dripping sweat and the weight fell off him so quickly that he was eating 6 huge meals a day and still couldn't stop getting thinner. Just like being a speed freak in fact ...

He eventually had his thyroid gland 'zapped' to bring it back to a healthy range of operation, went back to eating 3 normal-sized meals a day and his weight settled back to its old level.

So, if you don't mind being a speed freak for the rest of your life, can put up the symptoms mentioned above, plus the mental health damage that would almost inevitably follow - you know what to do! :wacko:

Alternatively ... You don't need to eat 'less', you need to eat 'different'. If you want to, you can eat huge quantities of many vegetables and not take in that many calories, as long as you don't accompany the veg with similar amounts of cheese. meat, bread and so on.

youve described me! only mine is now underactive and i need ot take levothyroxine to replce, now i struggle to keep weight donw
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
youve described me! only mine is now underactive and i need ot take levothyroxine to replce, now i struggle to keep weight donw
My late mum had an over-active thyroid gland (like my mate's) but when the doctors 'zapped' hers they overdid it with her too, so then she was also put on those pills to get what was left working again! :sad:
 
The only diet pills that work, are peer reviewed and safe are the fat binders ("Ali" and the like - orlistat etc) but they will give you steatorrhoea (shitting fat) which sounds horrific and has lead to the term "Ali-oops" - which I am sure you can work out. They do work - although I think a lot of it is that you get punished so badly when you eat fat that you have to modify your diet to high fibre and protein low fat foods to avoid seepage!

However what you can do is take some form of caffeine 45-60 mins before exercise to boost the number of calories burnt. This is particularly useful if you also combine your cycling with resistance training of some sort. If you really want to pop a pill take a pro-plus but a strong coffee will do and will be a lot safer than any crap you can find on the interweb. Good research behind it, not a miracle treatment but it may give you a bit of a boost.
 
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