Was I in the wrong

[Colin B]

Always check for other road users just highlighting never take "direction indicators" as read especially at roundabouts

Tell me about it see it everyday in the van I tend to go the opposite and indicate etc well in advance

 

[Colin B]

Well, if you were at the front when the lights changed, you could have anticipated the problem and moved over as you drew to a halt. If you weren't at the front you could pull over between vehicles and create a space for yourself. I wasn't criticising you though, just offering a suggestion - you were not in the wrong.

No worries mate last time I was on the road the latest car was a ford cortina

 

[Profpointy]

simple answer NO !
you were not in the wrong.

Longer answer, that is an illustration of why cycle lanes are (usually) " a bad thing", which does in no way excuse idiotic and murderous driving.

 

[helston90]

You were not in the wrong, it's p*ss poor road design with cyclists being an after thought. As mentioned above I would stick to the left hand lane but the middle of it- especially if it's only a few cars waiting, if it's a big queue then you're going to have to take a risk in the cycle lane- at least you know what to expect.

 

[steve52]

you were right she was wrong but hey it happens forget it and enjoy your riding

 

[RedRider]

I think I wouldn't be in the cycle lane there - I'd start off strongly in the middle of that left-hand lane and move over once I was almost past the junction.

Definitely this. as a rule of thumb be in the middle of the lane at junctions. If it annoys a driver that's their problem.

 

[Colin B]

Is this just me but as a driver I consider the cycle lane as another lane and I treat it as such so if I'm turning left say I then view it as a give way situation as like a right turn I'm making a manouve through traffic potentially I might not be explaining g that right but basically I check traffic before doing a right turn and I do the same doing a left through a cycle lane only I use a mirror and not forward vision

 

[Profpointy]

Is this just me but as a driver I consider the cycle lane as another lane and I treat it as such so if I'm turning left say I then view it as a give way situation as like a right turn I'm making a manouve through traffic potentially I might not be explaining g that right but basically I check traffic before doing a right turn and I do the same doing a left through a cycle lane only I use a mirror and not forward vision

yes, but you're not a nob though !

 

[Colin B]

yes, but you're not a nob though !

Lmao you don't know me some would disagree there

 

[Profpointy]

Lmao you don't know me some would disagree there

well ok, not on this occasion then :-)

 

[Pat "5mph"]

Is this just me but as a driver I consider the cycle lane as another lane and I treat it as such so if I'm turning left say I then view it as a give way situation as like a right turn I'm making a manouve through traffic potentially I might not be explaining g that right but basically I check traffic before doing a right turn and I do the same doing a left through a cycle lane only I use a mirror and not forward vision

As @User13710 posted, for your own safety (you're more visible, plus cars should not be able to cut across you) at junctions always take primary position (middle of the lane)
If a cycle lane feeds the junction, signal, get out of the lane in plenty of time.
Never mind the possible beeping

 

[Nigelnaturist]

Most cycle lanes around here are only advisory ones, those with a broken white lane (in fact being a cyclist you are not bound by any law to use a cycle lane), cycle lanes with broken white lanes can be used by motorists, those with solid white lanes cant, like the solid white lane in the centre they should not be crossed (with out reason). I rode to Wakefield yesterday from Pontefract and they have this cycle lane that really is a waste of tax payers money to have painted it, as it encourages cyclist to stay within in it and motorists outside it, however the road is a main road and for the most part quite wide, the cycle lane due to the fact very few cars go in it is usually full of c*** and is quite rough in places, so I tend not to be in it, even approaching junctions like the the O.P. posted I would be in the main left lane in a position that cars behind me would have to wait behind me, so they couldn't do the manovur that happened ( mind you having said that some still try).

 

[Ruthie]

I would usually position myself towards the middle of the lane at a junction like this to ensure I am in drivers' eye line. You sound like a very considerate and thoughtful driver, and being a cyclist you are probably very aware of other cyclists on the road. Other drivers may be less so. Nobody wants to collide with another road user and making yourself as visible as possible, and behaving like the rest of the traffic, works for me. Even if some prat objects to my presence in the lane, I figure if they beep at me, they've seen me and won't drive into me!

 

[Colin B]

You were not in the wrong, it's p*ss poor road design with cyclists being an after thought. As mentioned above I would stick to the left hand lane but the middle of it- especially if it's only a few cars waiting, if it's a big queue then you're going to have to take a risk in the cycle lane- at least you know what to expect.

Piss poor road design funny bit is its the Velcrome area lol

 

[PlymSlimCyclist]

Personally I'd have done one of two things...

Firstly, If I'd filtered into the lane, I'd get the drivers attention and point forward, if not, then they turn their light on and also know you're there then. (I do this on a busy road in the mornings, and like the security of the driver knowing I'm there). I usually give them a two finger pointing-forward-motion and get the response I need.

Secondly, I tend to gauge whats ahead, and if in doubt, take primary and hold back behind x cars. It's sometimes a pain when you've fast changing lights, but I'd rather that then be left hooked. Take your safety first IMO. Unfortunately you still get morons overtake you as they're far too important to be held up by a mere cyclist, however them overtaking for that extra car space ahead only gets quashed when you overtake them at the next lights / tailback (this makes me smile nightly).