Wandering walkers and irresponsible dog walkers

[Norm]

Can I bring my dog?

 

[Fifelad]

Can I bring my dog?

Stop it now !

 

[david k]

you could norm but he is roaming shared paths as we speak

 

[Norm]

Stop it now !

you could norm but he is roaming shared paths as we speak

He was practising that earlier, he's currently on board the overnight sleeper to Fife.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

shameful posts from the same bullies on bikes that I see on my shared route/commute

As I dog owner If I call my dog in I expect a 'thankyou'....if you dont then expect words. Get a bell and accept that on a shared route you come last behind pedestrians and dog walkers.

I would love to be the first person to lob a little yellow brompton in a hedge , something tells me I wont be.

You expect to be thanked! For simply doing what you are meant to be doing, keeping your dog under control?

I have a bell all Bromptons have one as standard, care to explain just how a bell manages to clear dog shoot, wind in invisible extending leads, controls a dog that the owner can't?

 

[XmisterIS]

pedestrians on shared paths don't bother me too much - I just slow down for them. It is a shared use path, after all! If I want to ride fast, I take the road route.

The ones that really hack me off (and have led to arguments) are the militant ramblers on bridleways who believe that off-road bikes shouldn't be there and who will actively move to deliberately block your progress. Even if you tell them that you are allowed, by law, to ride on the bridleway, they won;t have it and say that in their opinion you shouldn't be there (therefore they are, of course, completely justified in behaving like tools, just because it's their opinion that bikes shouldn't be there).

 

[Rhythm Thief]

The ones that really hack me off (and have led to arguments) are the militant ramblers on bridleways who believe that off-road bikes shouldn't be there and who will actively move to deliberately block your progress. Even if you tell them that you are allowed, by law, to ride on the bridleway, they won;t have it and say that in their opinion you shouldn't be there (therefore they are, of course, completely justified in behaving like tools, just because it's their opinion that bikes shouldn't be there).

I've had the same issue with ramblers on Byways Open to All Traffic and my off road, er, Citroen 2CV.

Can of worms, anyone?

 

[apollo179]

drivers and cyclists, cyclists and peds, peds and mobility scooters, mods and rockers, carry on

Ahh the historic cyclist vs dog conflict.
I predict that like a rabid dog off its leash its gonna run and run

 

[Jezston]

I've had the same issue with ramblers on Byways Open to All Traffic and my off road, er, Citroen 2CV.

Can of worms, anyone?

Issues?

Surely in a collision between a 2CV and a pedestrian the 2CV would come out far worse?

"Ah lovely day for a walk in a countryside, what Tabatha?"
"Oh indeed George, delightful ... ouch! What was that? Did a moth just fly into me?"
"I'm not sure dear ... oh! I'm guessing by that mass of crumpled metal over there that it was one of those old Citroens."
"Ah well that's ok. Ooh look at those geraniums!"

 

[John the Monkey]

As I dog owner If I call my dog in I expect a 'thankyou'....if you dont then expect words. Get a bell and accept that on a shared route you come last behind pedestrians and dog walkers.

Um... as a cyclist who also owns a dog (a friendly, but slightly thick and rather excitable Jack Russell) I have to disagree on that. He gets called in and sat when cyclists or horse riders pass us. Sometimes they let on, sometimes not - I don't really mind either way, personally.

Some people are never happy - I've met folk who moan if you ring a bell to let them know you're there, and folk who moan if you say "excuse me" instead. Memorably, one bloke said "Just pass me quietly!", a recipe for making folk jump out of their skin if ever there was one.

 

[Norm]

Indeed, I'm kind of uncomfortable at someone getting riled by not being thanked.

I do thank everyone who visibly controls their dogs but they are just complying with legal requirements so thanking them is akin to thanking people for not using a phone whilst driving.

 

[Crackle]

Um... as a cyclist who also owns a dog (a friendly, but slightly thick and rather excitable Jack Russell) I have to disagree on that. He gets called in and sat when cyclists or horse riders pass us. Sometimes they let on, sometimes not - I don't really mind either way, personally.

Some people are never happy - I've met folk who moan if you ring a bell to let them know you're there, and folk who moan if you say "excuse me" instead. Memorably, one bloke said "Just pass me quietly!", a recipe for making folk jump out of their skin if ever there was one.

Exactly. It's nice to get a thank you, some cyclists do look particularly glum, maybe they have an endorphin shortage and some people will always moan. I had one this morning. As soon as I clapped eyes on him I could tell he was going to moan at me. Unfortunately for him, my mood was fairly dark this morning.

 

[doog]

You expect to be thanked! For simply doing what you are meant to be doing, keeping your dog under control?

I have a bell all Bromptons have one as standard, care to explain just how a bell manages to clear dog shoot, wind in invisible extending leads, controls a dog that the owner can't?

What do you call keeping a dog under control? I dont see too many cylists getting mown down by 'out of control dogs' or attacked on shared routes. Does slowing down for a dog upset you? Lose 20 seconds on your trip- you are just as bad as the impatient motorist. If you see a dog slow down. Most dog owners dont want vet fees when some blundering idiot on a bike piles into it so they will be responsible and call it in. I have read your anti dog posts on here since you joined and quite frankly I just think you are trolling - boring.

What I do see on a daily basis is young mothers with children,elderly people and people with dogs literally jumping (sometimes for their lives) because of bully boys on bikes piling up behind them, passing them without warning and not using a bell. As a cyclist, use your bell and when they pull the dog in, move over - follow it up with a thankyou or a wave.

Strangely enough I had an attitude like you , you know the' get out of my way im coming through attitude' but I grew out of it many years ago. Totally different on a road but having had 3 kids and a dog and being a cyclist who commutes on the same shared route (trailway), I have come to respect other trailway users including dog walkers rather than treat them like shoot (like you do)

I still have the odd run in, it cant be helped but just because its shared doesnt mean I own it when I am on my bike.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

What do you call keeping a dog under control? I dont see too many cylists getting mown down by 'out of control dogs' or attacked on shared routes. Does slowing down for a dog upset you? Lose 20 seconds on your trip- you are just as bad as the impatient motorist. If you see a dog slow down. Most dog owners dont want vet fees when some blundering idiot on a bike piles into it so they will be responsible and call it in. I have read your anti dog posts on here since you joined and quite frankly I just think you are trolling - boring.

What I do see on a daily basis is young mothers with children,elderly people and people with dogs literally jumping (sometimes for their lives) because of bully boys on bikes piling up behind them, passing them without warning and not using a bell. As a cyclist, use your bell and when they pull the dog in, move over - follow it up with a thankyou or a wave.

Strangely enough I had an attitude like you , you know the' get out of my way im coming through attitude' but I grew out of it many years ago. Totally different on a road but having had 3 kids and a dog and being a cyclist who commutes on the same shared route (trailway), I have come to respect other trailway users including dog walkers rather than treat them like shoot (like you do)

I still have the odd run in, it cant be helped but just because its shared doesnt mean I own it when I am on my bike.

None of your hastily assembled labels ( above ) fits, I have seen cyclists taken down by out of control dogs, the last about 3 weeks ago on the Taff Trail , on a sections where a local byelaw specifically says that dogs are to be kept on a lead, some hope! If you think I'm trolling I must be a very bad troll because I'm going to suggest to you that you simply killfile me, that way you don't have to get upset by me suggesting that all dog owners need to do to shut me up is stick to the law, as I do.

As for what do I call "being under control" a dog on a fixed lead, or one that will leave,stop and stay under verbal command, for that to work of course the dog needs to be in front of the owner, where is can be seen.

The reverse is also true a dog that is not under control includes any that are on extending leads, any that are behind the owner and that's before we start considering if the owner has bothered to train the animal in any way before taking it out into communal space for it's daily shoot.

In short , if you can't see the animal ,it's not under control, if it's on a extending lead you can;t control it, if it's out of voice range it's out of control , that covers about 75% of the turd dispensers I encounter daily. YMMV

 

[Emmanuel Obikwelu]

What do you call keeping a dog under control? I dont see too many cylists getting mown down by 'out of control dogs' or attacked on shared routes. Does slowing down for a dog upset you? Lose 20 seconds on your trip- you are just as bad as the impatient motorist. If you see a dog slow down. Most dog owners dont want vet fees when some blundering idiot on a bike piles into it so they will be responsible and call it in. I have read your anti dog posts on here since you joined and quite frankly I just think you are trolling - boring.

What I do see on a daily basis is young mothers with children,elderly people and people with dogs literally jumping (sometimes for their lives) because of bully boys on bikes piling up behind them, passing them without warning and not using a bell. As a cyclist, use your bell and when they pull the dog in, move over - follow it up with a thankyou or a wave.

Strangely enough I had an attitude like you , you know the' get out of my way im coming through attitude' but I grew out of it many years ago. Totally different on a road but having had 3 kids and a dog and being a cyclist who commutes on the same shared route (trailway), I have come to respect other trailway users including dog walkers rather than treat them like shoot (like you do)

I still have the odd run in, it cant be helped but just because its shared doesnt mean I own it when I am on my bike.

Just because LyB has a different opinion to you dosnt make him atroll.
To suggest that is just a copout.