thom
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A review of Between the Lines
Vicky P And A Troubled Life.
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er, some mistake with that link?
Silver Fox
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I understand your point but there's a flip side. No individual is bigger than the team and a team is only as good as its weakest link. VP, intentionally or not, brought a dimension into the team that was potentially divisive and destructive to morale at a time when unwavering focus was needed. This wasn't some office romance, it was conducted in a world class team striving for gold on the world stage.
Providing managerial support to 'fragile' members of staff is one thing but it has to be balanced against the greater needs of the team as a manager has a duty to look after their welfare as well.
Lee_M
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and two major athletes having a relationship (Kenny and Trott) isnt considered divisive?
As I said earlier, she needed support like lots of elite athletes (and in this case I do know what I'm talking about as both my sisters were olympians in the 80s), but what she got was the exact opposite
As I said earlier, she needed support like lots of elite athletes (and in this case I do know what I'm talking about as both my sisters were olympians in the 80s), but what she got was the exact opposite
Silver Fox
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All depends on the effect a relationship is having on the team, each has to be judged on its merits.
too true, but that doesn't seem to have happened in Pendleton's case. The management just flew off the handle.
thom
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Indeed.....:
http://www.podiumcafe.com/2012/9/18/3352494/between-the-lines-by-victoria-pendleton
should do it - apologies!
Silver Fox
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Unless you were actually there no one will actually know what she was like to manage on a daily basis.
Don't get me wrong I like VP, acknowledge her achievements and wish her well. However, with her self-harming, insecure, overly emotional personality I wonder if behind closed doors she was a problem child for the management. If, as you say the management flew off the handle, what was the reason for this. Reached the end of their tether maybe.
On the other hand they may have just been crap managers but from what I've seen and read about young Victoria I do wonder.
172traindriver
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Lets remember for her what she achieved. Yes she may have caused a few problems etc and messed the system up, but hey she won numerous Gold medals and other titles.
She has retired now, all the best to her and I hope she can be happy for many years to come, with her chap.
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No apologies necessary - many thanks - Interesting para starting:
"There are many things to admire in British Cycling's Lottery-funded renaissance."
continuing:
"But at what cost?"
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Smokin Joe
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Relationships between peers are a different matter, there is no need for it to be divisive in any organisation. Between management and staff is a different matter, it leads to suspicions of favouritism and resentment among the other staff members and you cannot have anything like that in a sports team where the only thing that matters is success. It's the same in the armed forces where relationships between officers and the lower ranks are illegal, those are the rules they sign up to and if they can't take a joke they shouldn't have joined. And remember, Pendleton was NOT penalised over the affair, it was the senior member who quite rightly had to go.
I like the comments about somebody made about "Crap Management". As they managed the most successful sports team ever to come out of this country I think that accusation would make them smile.
oldroadman
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All respects to some posters on this thread, but neither you nor I have the slightest clue what really went on, what secrets were kept, how the coaches felt when they discovered that one of their number had been having an affair with someone they must have openly discussed and criticised at times. All the while not knowing that confidences may have been leaked. VP is perfectly entitled to be with who she wishes, BUT these things need to be in the open. Management set rules, they were applied, and you don't sack a potential medallist. So in the long term, the support was there, in a tough way. Which is how it is at that level - get on with it or fail - simple.
VP got on with it and succeeded. Because she is a pro, and behaved like one.
Just think that what you see on TV is some editors version of all the footage shot, and changing order, careful and clever edits, can paint entirely different pictures from the same source material.
Anyway, all said, I hope VP has a happy life, enjoys her TV dancing stint (she'll probably win!!), and carries on succeeding at whatever she chooses to do or be.
VP got on with it and succeeded. Because she is a pro, and behaved like one.
Just think that what you see on TV is some editors version of all the footage shot, and changing order, careful and clever edits, can paint entirely different pictures from the same source material.
Anyway, all said, I hope VP has a happy life, enjoys her TV dancing stint (she'll probably win!!), and carries on succeeding at whatever she chooses to do or be.
Hont
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I think BC (and in particular Shane Sutton) admitted they had made mistakes, but I don't feel that VP has too much right to feel aggrieved in the way it was handled, even if it was badly done. She and Scott were the ones who kept it secret in the first instance after all. You can't help who you fall in love with but you can help how honest you are about it.
Crankarm
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She was on again. This time Chris Evan's show this morning fri. She's certainly giving herself full exposure .......
