Upgrading cassette and chain

[Citius]

I don't see anything misleading about it at all. I said gear choice is a balance. You will gain as much height as you lose - that's all there is to it. If your 20 mile ride is 1000ft down hill, it will also be 1000ft back up again. If you are descending a 1% hill, you won't be spinning out on an 11t. Nor will you need a 32t to get back up it. But you will still do the same amount of work, regardless.

edit - let's use height, rather than miles.

 

[bpsmith]

I don't see anything misleading about it at all. I said gear choice is a balance. You will gain as much height as you lose - that's all there is to it. If your 20 mile ride is 1000ft down hill, it will also be 1000ft back up again. If you are descending a 1% hill, you won't be spinning out on an 11t. Nor will you need a 32t to get back up it. But you will still do the same amount of work, regardless.

edit - let's use height, rather than miles.

That's exactly my point, thank you.

 

[Citius]

So first you say it was misleading - and now you are agreeing. Awesome.

 

[bpsmith]

So first you say it was misleading - and now you are agreeing. Awesome.

Your original post was misleading, then you restated exactly what I was eluding to. I am out!

 

[Citius]

You certainly are...

 

[bpsmith]

Let's not spoil yet another thread fella!

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Hi

My Cube Peloton road bike currently has a Shimano Tiagra 12-32T 10 speed rear cassette on.

I was thinking of upgrading/changing to a Shimano 105 6700 11-28T cassette. This will then be a full 105 gear/chai set and better gearing I hope.

Will I notice much real world difference? Both in top speed (I often spin out on the 12 I have) and/or climbing the local hills?

I can't find a 105 10 speed chain anywhere as they look to be discontinued. Would something like this be OK? http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-ultegra-6701-10-speed-chain/rp-prod55029

The fitting/ replacement looks relatively straightforward but I don't have the specialist tools so was thinking it'd be better to get my LBS to do it. Is it better for me to by the tools and DIY or am I likely to only need them next blue moon!?

Methinks this is what's bugging you. Forget it - they are just bits of simple metal.

 

[Buck]

TBH I wasn't sure if having all the components the same was 'better' but it seems that we can have a veritable pick 'n' mix

I'm going to monitor my usage of the gears over the next few weeks and see if I would miss the easiest couple or not. I don't want to gain the 11 then find I'm missing the 30! After all it is a bit on the hilly side around here

 

[SpokeyDokey]

TBH I wasn't sure if having all the components the same was 'better' but it seems that we can have a veritable pick 'n' mix

I'm going to monitor my usage of the gears over the next few weeks and see if I would miss the easiest couple or not. I don't want to gain the 11 then find I'm missing the 30! After all it is a bit on the hilly side around here

Good idea.

The 'big jump' thing on the cassette doesn't bother me. In fact he individual gaps don't even register as significant differences on my Tiagra 12-30. It all feels like a nice set of well spaced steps as I shuttle up and down the cogs.

There's always a widely different set of views on what is right about all aspects of bikes/cycling. Different people have different needs based on their fitness, type of riding and where they ride etc.

For me, I live in a hilly area, am pretty fit, although that is only in a small part cycling derived, and would be classed as a casual cyclist (2000 miles pa/low motivation to get out there) and need a range of gears that gets me up and down the incessant up & downs of the Lake District.

My 46/34 and 12x28 works perfectly for me.

With a 53/39 and 11-23 fitted I wouldn't be able to cope but for other people that might well be the holy grail of cycle gearing.

 

[bpsmith]

I am one of those who hate feeling like a should change up, or down, but know that the next gear I have will be too big or too small respectively.

I do I agree that were all different though and some can accept this scenario without any complaints.

Would I not ride a wider range cassette with bigger jumps, no. Would I like my everyday bike to be this way, no.