Upgrade to campag?

[I am Spartacus]

I am putting this in beginners not just for the hell of it but some threads can be difficult to position (in cafe it will get swamped by vacuous meanderings)..... and this should be interesting

next road bike could be a Willier.. oh I wish..

anyways , been Shimano .. Shimano Shimano all the way up to the present...

why should I 'move' to Campagnolo ? (Willier - with Veloce groupset)
answers hopefully should not fit on a postcard for when I return and stir up up things a bit

 

[Will1985]

Would this be with v3 or v2 shape Ergos?

How many spares and what tools do you have which would just fit Shimano?

Despite being totally Campag, I'm struggling to think of a good reason as to why you should switch other than the fact that Italian bikes should have Italian components (sorry...) Functionally you would still have a 10 speed cassette which would give you the same gears as a Shimano setup. I'd be interested to see if there is a difference in feel/stiffness between an UltraTorque and Hollowtech2 crankset. Other than that it's down to whether you think STIs or Ergos feel better.

 

[Crankarm]

Campag v Shimano

 

[I am Spartacus]

Good answer, as this is almost a hypotheses.... (the Willier does not have a Shimano option ?)
Ergopower for the shifters.. I am musing over a 2010 spec..as you do
Yes, all my tools are for Shimano...
Feel free to take the discussion onto an existential level

 

[I am Spartacus]

Campag v Shimano

I felt it was time again
sorry

 

[MajorMantra]

You should change if the ergonomics and shifting arrangements of Campag suit you better or if the bike you particularly want comes with Campag. Otherwise, why bother? By the way, it's not like changing you religion or something. There's no law that says you can't have both, with a little SRAM hussy on the side!

I had Shimano (9 spd Ultegra) and now I have Campag (10spd Centaur) because it seemed like the best value for money when I was speccing my Ribble. Having used both I can honestly say that I prefer Campag but if I were looking at getting another bike I'd still consider Shimano or SRAM if the price were right.

Matthew

 

[Randochap]

I use both. I prefer Ergo(nomics) and shifting of Campag, but still choose Shimano -- with barends -- for lower gearing options on touring bikes.

 

[wafflycat]

Uncle Albert comes out once more to remind all..

 

[Geraldom]

I use both, Camp Veloce on recently purchased Mortorolo (yup, go for it, you know you want to...) and shimano on Van nic. While Mortorolo only seen a month or so's action before hibernating for winter i have to say i inherently found veloce changing somehow 'nicer' than shimano, but had/have no issue with it prior to using camp....

 

[I am Spartacus]

I use both, Camp Veloce on recently purchased Mortorolo (yup, go for it, you know you want to...) and shimano on Van nic. While Mortorolo only seen a month or so's action before hibernating for winter i have to say i inherently found veloce changing somehow 'nicer' than shimano, but had/have no issue with it prior to using camp....

voice of reason
I have put the Willier firmly on the 'order list' for 2010... just have to suss out where to lay my hands on the £££££££££

 

[Crankarm]

Camparable camponents between the two were always much cheaper from Shimano IMHO. Although the gap has narrowed somewhat as all prices for bike kit have gone stratospheric.

TBH I like both. At the higher end they just offer a different experience in getting to the same destination. I just prefer Shimano's STi set up to Campag's Ergo levers when cycling although the Campag system is still good. In unexpected situations I find it easier to brake and change gear with STis than with Ergo levers. Mind Chorus Ergos are beautifully made and very precise at controlling changing. I did have some Chorus Ergos seize about 5 years ago for no apparent reason. They had had little use which I guess was the reason. Replacement was exsponseeeve! This put me off them. I got a new bike which had Ultegra throughout and STi levers which have worked faultlessly for 5 years - searches for some wood.

 

[RecordAceFromNew]

why should I 'move' to Campagnolo ?

1. While history might not extrapolate into the future, vintage Campag parts (from even the lower groups) tend to maintain reasonable value over time; the same does not appear to apply as well to Shimano parts (even if they function just as well).

2. While I appreciate it is not relevant to most people, it seems generally Campag systems can be repaired more readily, with spares more easily available. This might be one of the reasons behind phenomenon in 1.

3. You are Spartacus, you have a head start in the knowledge of all things Italian

 

[Keith Oates]

If the bike I really liked above all else could only be bought with Campag gearing.........................I'd look for another make of bike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ridelikeapro]

There's an old saying... Campag wears in, Shimano wears out. Campagnolo does have a reputation for better wear and durability. I have to agree with RecordAce, Campag really does hold it's value - I recently sold a stack of classic 1970's and 80's Campag bits and pieces on Ebay that I was thinking of taking to the rubbish tip - I was astonished at the high prices that I got for the various items... and the number of bidders. Coming back to your dilema, I would say Campag is great to use, has more cudos than Shimano, and if you're riding an Italian bike then Campagnolo is the way to go, it's just the right thing to do.

 

[mossy]

I still have original campag on my 1987 bike.
Full group-set and hubs still going strong after all the miles.
I would agree Italian bikes really should have campag for the image but the choice is down to the individual.I have both Shimano and Campagnlo on my bikes,as do many friends.(Costs in tools though).