Tyler Hamilton...

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Flying_Monkey

Flying_Monkey

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Odawa
Oh dearie me...
 
mangaman

mangaman

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He looks completely different in that picture

Still, always to be relied on for a good excuse. Taking an androgenic steroid for depression. mmmm hardly standard treatment

I'm surprised he didn't claim it was his vanishing twin that was depressed
 
Skip Madness

Skip Madness

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mangaman said:
Still, always to be relied on for a good excuse. Taking an androgenic steroid for depression. mmmm hardly standard treatment
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It says that DHEA is an ingredient in Mitamins Advanced Formula for Depression, which is a standard product (over-the-counter, it even says), and that Hamilton was diagnosed with clinical depression in 2003.

I have no sympathy for his previous wrongdoings and the way he strung people along denying everything was despicable. But he does come across as fairly despondent in those statements. By the sound of it, it is best for him and everyone else that he leaves the sport.
 
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yenrod

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I think this is A MASSIVE bit of news.

He beckoned big wonderings when he rode the tour with a broken collar bone & the blood doping too...

Bizarre.
 
Bollo

Bollo

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Winch
So he took a drug which would have a disputed or at best a marginal effect on his depression (and how is it truly homoeopathic if they can detect anything other than water, but that's another story....) to risk a life ban and final disgrace that will surely errrr, errr.......make him more depressed? Probably not cheating in a performance enhancing sense, but very, very dumb.
 
Chuffy

Chuffy

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On the banks of the Exe
His Tour in 2003 is still a great ride, broken collar bone and all. No drug (except for, perhaps, a hearty snort of angel dust before each stage) will give you the courage to do that.

But dear god, the lies, the compounded lies and the sheer f8kin' stupidity of it all...:biggrin:

The guy had the guts and skill to be a real hero but he screwed it up. :biggrin:
 
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Crackle

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I don't care what he was on in 2003, that was still an incredibly heroic ride. This all just smacks of sadness and maybe I'm naive but semi-believable if completely crazy as he surely knew it would end his career, which is kinda what makes it believable.
 
Chuffy

Chuffy

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Crackle said:
I don't care what he was on in 2003, that was still an incredibly heroic ride. This all just smacks of sadness and maybe I'm naive but semi-believable if completely crazy as he surely knew it would end his career, which is kinda what makes it believable.
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Sounds like he knew full well that he was taking an illegal substance (the performance benefit is irrelevant). I can't believe that you'd try to treat depression with some crappy over-the-counter piece of crap medicine that you KNOW contains an illegal substance. He's got money. He can surely afford better treatment than that. Stupid. Jaw-droppingly stupid....
 
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John the Monkey

John the Monkey

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Crewe
Hamilton claims he took the suggested dosage for two days prior to the out-of-competition urine test. USADA's legal limit of DHEA found in the urine is 100ng/mL. Hamilton's urine sample was tested at UCLA where lab technicians found 130 ng/mL of DHEA in his urine sample. Dr. Paul Scott, founder of Scott Analytics, reviewed the testing procedure for the B sample.
According to Scott, the level found in Hamilton's urine was not consistent with him taking large amounts of the drug. However, trying to nail down how much was taken is hard if not impossible. "It could have been a large amount taken several days before the test where only small amounts remained, or it could have been a small amount, the suggested dosage on the bottle, taken the day before the control," Scott told Cyclingnews. "That is a question only Tyler can answer. But, we can't exclude other possibilities to the way it was taken."
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Interesting commentary over at Nyvelocity too.
 
Keith Oates

Keith Oates

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Penarth, Wales
He took the drug and knew it was wrong, got caught and now pays the penalty. Shame, as he was one of my favorites at one time but I hope he can now get some peace of mind!!
 
Priscilla Parsley

Priscilla Parsley

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Manchester
depression can knock your judgement, i feel this is quite a heart breaking story really, I hate doping in cycing but my god i'm not there, busting my gut day after day coming 8th, 15th, 112th. I don't know, but these people end up living in a cycling bubble and how ever much i love it, i thank f*** i don't do it.
 
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