TV 42/43" Recommendation

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Dadam

Über Member
Location
SW Leeds
Televisions are one of those products that becomes less reliable as you get more expensive. One issue is edge lit LEDs which are run at higher brightness so you can create a thinner television. Televisions typically are more reliable when they are fatter at the back and often can have better sound due to larger speakers. They also typically have better cooling and the larger number of LEDs run much cooler due to their lower light intensity.

True but not relevant for OLED panels as per OP's choice of TV. In OLED each pixel is composed of a cluster of LEDs so emits its own light.
There is no requirement for backlighting unlike LED-backlit LCD panels. Back in the day LCD TVs were backlit with cold cathode tubes so were even thicker.

The panel on our Hisense OLED TV is about 5mm thick including the aluminium casing. However the TV body includes a plastic box of about 40mm depth at the back lower down which houses speakers and electronics.
 

gzoom

Über Member
@gzoom I hear what you say and understand, most, of it. I'm sure I'm a disappointment to you but all we want is to watch TV in our little front room. 🤣

Very sensible philosophy to follow :smile:
 

gzoom

Über Member
The panel on our Hisense OLED TV is about 5mm thick including the aluminium casing. However the TV body includes a plastic box of about 40mm depth at the back lower down which houses speakers and electronics.

I was surprised the 'Frame' TV we bought to mount in the living room is actually LED and OLED. It's the 'thinnest' TV Samsung make I believe and all the wiring is connected via a separate external box.

The TV was so thin we had to get sockets moved wall from where we were planning to mount the TV as even plug sockets were to thick to allow the TV to be mounted.
 
True but not relevant for OLED panels as per OP's choice of TV. In OLED each pixel is composed of a cluster of LEDs so emits its own light.
There is no requirement for backlighting unlike LED-backlit LCD panels. Back in the day LCD TVs were backlit with cold cathode tubes so were even thicker.

The panel on our Hisense OLED TV is about 5mm thick including the aluminium casing. However the TV body includes a plastic box of about 40mm depth at the back lower down which houses speakers and electronics.

I'd say it is relevant as OLED's have poor reliability and a shorter lifespan so its important to make the point simplicity and tried and tested older technology often has superior reliability. If you do a search for OLED reliability you should get quite a lot of info about the poor reliability and lifespan of this technology. It's a bit like buying a BMW car you get poor reliability and very expensive repairs but performance is very good and you get a premium product. I'm of the mentality for value, economy and environmental issues its better to go in the sensible middle ground which for televisions can be a very, very reasonably priced product.
 
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PaulSB

PaulSB

Squire
I'd say it is relevant as OLED's have poor reliability and a shorter lifespan so its important to make the point simplicity and tried and tested older technology often has superior reliability. If you do a search for OLED reliability you should get quite a lot of info about the poor reliability and lifespan of this technology. It's a bit like buying a BMW car you get poor reliability and very expensive repairs but performance is very good and you get a premium product. I'm of the mentality for value, economy and environmental issues its better to go in the sensible middle ground which for televisions can be a very, very reasonably priced product.

There's a survey from Which? reporting 6% of LG owners experienced a fault in the first six years of ownership. My current LG is 11 years without a fault. I feel there is generally a good lifespan for these products.

If I get ten years from the new one I'll be happy. It comes from Richer Sounds with a six year warranty. I'm comfortable with this.
 

Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
The issue will more likely be the turning off of transmitted channels in favour of streaming services and what TV features emerge as a result. A TV or PVR that records streamings services for example and allows you to fast forward / minute skip the adverts like you can with a transmitted channel PVR recording. Currently I PVR nearly all commercial channel programs I want to watch and use iPlayer for BBC ones as many are in UHD.
 

gzoom

Über Member
I'd say it is relevant as OLED's have poor reliability and a shorter lifespan so its important to make the point simplicity and tried and tested older technology often has superior reliability. If you do a search for OLED reliability you should get quite a lot of info about the poor reliability and lifespan of this technology.

Whilst LED tech has far more history than OLED, I think its scaremongering to suggest you shouldn't buy an OLED TV today.

Samsung had been using OLED screens in phones since 2018, and interms of actual screen usage phones gets a much harder life than any TV. If OLED screens were dying prematurely it would all over the news now.

I have a 25 year old LED screen I still use for work, but you cannot deny OLED do display blacks better and has overall less energy usage. Screen-burn-in is a really issue though with OLEDs, though much better than plasma. I had to return one of the last for sale ex-display Pioneer Kuros a local AV shop had because how bad screen burn-in was despite the shop having taken as much care as possible.

For static image displays LEDs are more reliable, and they can get really thin these days, the total depth our Frame TV is barely over 2cm, and it’s mounted totally flat to the wall, just like real picture frame!!

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Dadam

Über Member
Location
SW Leeds
I'd say it is relevant as OLED's have poor reliability and a shorter lifespan so its important to make the point simplicity and tried and tested older technology often has superior reliability. If you do a search for OLED reliability you should get quite a lot of info about the poor reliability and lifespan of this technology. It's a bit like buying a BMW car you get poor reliability and very expensive repairs but performance is very good and you get a premium product. I'm of the mentality for value, economy and environmental issues its better to go in the sensible middle ground which for televisions can be a very, very reasonably priced product.

No, the point you were making before was relevant to LEDs but not to OLEDs. You now appear to be widening that into an "old stuff good, new stuff bad" generalisation. Any newer tech has issues, but with OLED tech has improved a lot and it's well worth it for the vastly higher picture quality. Oh and I've owned BMWs for 10 years now, one for the last 8 years and have had no reliability issues. Current one is easily the best car I've ever owned. :biggrin:
 
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