Trying to make cyclists more seen

[shouldbeinbed]

agree with GC, an insurance company & lawyer would have a field day with no lights on the bike.

agree on the into the sky angle too & restriction it places on you zipping/unzipping.

Another point is that I regularly see horse riders round here with exactly this shape and idea of hi-viz & LED's belt and braces 'harness,' this begs a couple of questions:

1. Have you checked you've not infringed someone else's intellectual property/patent idea?

2. In more rural areas this, lower down to the ground could be mistaken by a driver for a more distant horse & rider, leaving the closer cyclist potentially in more trouble as the driver has not processed a nearby bike and won't be expecting that until (hopefully not) too late.

 

[HLaB]

Whilst the product you have looks good unfortunately no matter how visible you make a cyclist an idiot will always fail to look properly

 

[ComedyPilot]

I've got a kickstarter campaign going too.

It's a proximity sensor that detects a vulnerable road user in front. It then detects the vehicle's path and speed. If after a set period of time/distance the vehicles path and speed have not altered to take the vulnerable road user into account, then the vehicle's engine is automatically cut off.

For 4 years.

 

[ComedyPilot]

Joking aside, there's nothing more to add than our very own @theclaud has already posted.

End the thread now.

Light or dark, clear or foggy, there are ZERO excuses for RAMMING any road user from behind - PERIOD.

Make the ACTUAL PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE for RAMMING ANY OTHER road user from BEHIND actually RESPONSIBLE and ACCOUNTABLE for doing it, remove their license to do it, and we may see a marked decrease in the incidents.

Carry on blaming the vulnerable road users for the actions of MUCH BIGGER/HEAVIER/FASTER road users and the roads will NEVER be safe.

 

[lukasran]

some odd attitudes on here, Im a more serious road cyclist and would snap it up. for the motorists that do drive round with there eyes open, which im guessing is most of the buggers, this would help them see me.

 

[YahudaMoon]

I don't wear a ruck sac, and wouldn't bother wearing something that would mean my jacket was held on tight to me, if I was hot and unzipped it or even wanted to take it off.

Ive solved that problem here

With a strobe effect like a police car

 

[theclaud]

some odd attitudes on here, Im a more serious road cyclist and would snap it up. for the motorists that do drive round with there eyes open, which im guessing is most of the buggers, this would help them see me.

More serious than what?

 

[ianrauk]

More serious than what?

A Bonj?

 

[theclaud]

A Bonj?

Impossible!

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

some odd attitudes on here, Im a more serious road cyclist and would snap it up. for the motorists that do drive round with there eyes open, which im guessing is most of the buggers, this would help them see me.

Which leads to an upping of the ante beyond taking reasonable steps to be visible as well as putting the onus on your own back when it should be on the driver's.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

some odd attitudes on here, ...

I know, it's crazy isn't it - expecting drivers to look where they're going. Pffft.


GC

 

[lukasran]

you guys keep on trying to change the driving culture of uk from a cycling forum. in the mean time i will go with people who have done something to improve my visibility now.

 

[theclaud]

you guys keep on trying to change the driving culture of uk from a cycling forum. in the mean time i will go with people who have done something to improve my visibility now.

From the roads, actually. There can't be a driving culture unless motor vehicles are allowed to dominate the roads. May I ask where you ride? If it's in London, have you noticed anything?

 

[shouldbeinbed]

you guys keep on trying to change the driving culture of uk from a cycling forum. in the mean time i will go with people who have done something to improve my visibility now.

what a very judgemental and small minded attitude. How many people on here do you think are cycling campaigners or advocates in their local areas, if not nationally, engaging with policy makers and authorities & seeking to make a positive change on the roads for everyone and not for financial gain by simply adding to the over visibility arms race that only helps to perpetuate the widely held myth that cyclists are the only people with a responsibility for their own safety.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Some new European HGV legislation just came in. Along with the statistic that 4000 cyclists are killed every year by HGVs in Europe. Now, why would so many lives have been wasted? Would it be because of cyclists not being visible? Or would it be because HGVs are unable to see well? The fact that there is new legislation, - albeit too little, too slow - coming in suggests that all the evidence suggested that the problem wasn't cyclists, it was HGVs. And, yes, I'm sure many of us signed the petition to our EMPs to support the legislation.

And the legislation didn't get passed by the people lying in their I'm all right Jacuzzis while others drowned.

EDIT: according to the ECF, the fatalities were at 7000 in 2008:
''HGVs make up 3% of the European vehicle fleet and 7% of driven kilometres, yet they are involved in 18% of fatal accidents, costing over 7000 lives across the EU in 2008. This figure rose to 22% for average figures between the years 2008-2010 (i). HGV fatalities involving cyclist are more likely to result in serious injury or death than collisions with other vehicles. Cyclists are often caught in the blind spot of HGVs leading to many right-turn (left in Cyprus, Ireland, Malta and the UK) blind spot crashes. - See more at: http://www.ecf.com/press_release/15...s-be-safer-for-cyclists/#sthash.YbCIMkwb.dpuf''