TrueStart coffee

[Blue Hills]

Got to ask.

What's a coffee overdose like?

I'm a real coffee head and I'm still here.

I do fear for sure that folks can overdose on the performance performance measure measure analyse analyse thing.

If you are an Olympic athlete yes, otherwise just ride the bike.

How much is it for a 220/225/250g pack or whetever? - common sizes for coffee packs

 

[vickster]

@Blue Hills I once overdid it on coffee during a very long lunch, had a racing heart, pounding head, really bad nausea

 

[Firestorm]

I was rather hoping it was going to be like that "enhanced" coffee, Rocket fuel I think it was called. Coffee with added ginseng and gurana (sic) .....

 

[Blue Hills]

@Blue Hills I once overdid it on coffee during a very long lunch, had a racing heart, pounding head, really bad nausea

well I have in extremis felt a certain tingle in the finger tips - felt a bit edgy - but not likely to do serious harm - especially if pedalling like fury. I also on a few rides remember overdoing it a tad on the fabled Golding Hop's strong cider but I was never going to pipette measure it out. The biggest threat is ODing on performance performance performance - cycling is meant to be simple, relaxing, an escape.

If anyone needs drugs to counter a low when there's still hard riding to do I can recommend Aldi's Red Thunder.

PS - had maybe 5 or 6 espressos so far today. If you don't hear from me again .....

 

[jefmcg]

The average cup of coffee (according to google) contains 95g of caffeine. It seems the unique selling point of Truestart is you know how much caffeine is in each cup. But just read the label and it's between 75g-115g per cup. So you still don't have an exact idea of how much caffeine you have had, just a bit better an idea.

80g (40 cups) is £7 which is something more than double quality freeze dried coffee from the supermarket, though I suspect it's more ethically sourced than the supermarket brands.

 

[Blue Hills]

mm

80g £6.99,

or

250g of Lavazza also 100 per cent arabica from the far from bargain basement slummin-it Waitrose £3.65

http://www.johnlewis.com/lavazza-ar...af1c204&s_kwcid=402x352105&tmad=c&tmcampid=73

Unless I've got something wrong anyone who buys this has already had their brains frazzled by ODing on something and needs to be rushed to an isolation tent and pumped out.

 

[jefmcg]

250g of Lavazza also 100 per cent arabica from the far from bargain basement slummin-it Waitrose £3.65

Ah, that's ground coffee. Cheaper (by the gram) than instant.

 

[Blue Hills]

sorry - so Trustart is instant is it?

And if it is how is that better?"

The stuff I linked to was of course beans to convert to "powder" yourself but I did a quick search - assumed I could find "powder"/ready ground at a similar price.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/2319...1=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=122&ff19=0

The little man with the finger will get to the bottom of this - (coffee enemas have been proven to increase average performance by 10 per cent I believe)

 

[jefmcg]

sorry - so Trustart is instant is it?

And if it is how is that better?"

Well, if it's important to you know (within +/- 20%) how much caffeine you have had, I would think it has to be instant. Grind, brewing method, water temperature, water hardness (maybe that's a factor?) will affect how much of the caffeine in the beans ends up in the cup. But with instant coffee, that dissolves completely, then all the caffeine in the spoon will end up in your stomach.

None of this has value to the average punter, but I'm just explaining my understanding of their marketing.

 

[Julia9054]

@Blue Hills I once overdid it on coffee during a very long lunch, had a racing heart, pounding head, really bad nausea

Yeah, me too. Turkish coffee pulling an all nighter during my finals.

 

[Julia9054]

I'm fussy about my coffee. Usually drink Taylor's rich Italian and use an aeropress.
Have ordered the 7 sachets for £1 introductory offer from the True Start website and will report back.

Disclaimer: not a performance athlete, just like coffee!

 

[srw]

Hey, it's Simon here (one of the founders of TrueStart). I wanted to quickly post to help explain that the fundamental difference with TrueStart is that you can track your caffeine intake just like you can with gels, energy drinks etc. whilst enjoying a great tasting coffee. It removes the risk of overdosing on caffeine and ensures you get enough for the benefits. The reason we developed TrueStart is because caffeine in other coffee is random (which is not ideal for training) and there's lots of info out there on this (check this article out for example http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15968515).

Would it be really churlish of me to point out that that article refers to espresso made with fresh-ground beans, not to freeze-dried instant granules? And refers to risk to those who need to moderate their intake, not to the general public?

Oh, and I don't suppose you'd like to tell us what your quoted range (95mg +/- 20mg) refers to? Is it an interquartile range, a 90% symmetric confidence interval, an absolute 100% guarantee? And how accurate your scoops are? Does the scoop have to be absolutely level or will slightly heaped do? How do you allow for the fact that a hydrophilic product will gradually get denser over time?

 

[Blue Hills]

Disclaimer: not a performance athlete, just like coffee!

You are just so last century

 

[Blue Hills]

[QUOTE 4274947, member: 45"]<Dragon's Den>

It looks like you're trying to sell your coffee as if it's special to cycling. If the only "unique" point is that the caffeine is measureable then you've lost 90% of cyclists. Sometimes we drinks one cup in a day, sometimes we drinks five.

Saw, I wish ye all the best, bet ahm oot.

<Dragon's Den>[/QUOTE]
Fair points. I pretty much always have an espresso before i leave home on the bike. I think there is SOME research which suggests it helps the body perform in some way. Though that's not the primary reason why I glug it. Espresso (take a bow mr bialetti and mr gaggia) is one of Italy's great contributions to world culture, and you can still wander into many an italian bar and get an espresso for €1, way under a pound sterling. And wander into an italian supermarket and get SOME espresso beans for less than €6 a kilo.

 

[MrPie]

I'm fussy about my coffee. Usually drink Taylor's rich Italian and use an aeropress.
Have ordered the 7 sachets for £1 introductory offer from the True Start website and will report back.

Disclaimer: not a performance athlete, just like coffee!

Ya, Taylor's is wunderba. Mrs Pie grabbed some when it was on offer in t'supermarker. Love my cycling, love my coffee, shan't even contemplate purchasing instant. The 'sales' pitch above didn't help...I mean, really, 'controlled caffien', od, no added synthetics....