Tricross v Secteur Elite.
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Brandane
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Strangely enough, that's what I've just done!
Bought a pair of Specialised 23mm road tyres and stuck 120psi in them. Went for a 28 mile circuit round some of our local rolling hills (Largs/West Kilbride/Dalry/Haylie Brae/Largs) and did an average speed of 13.5mph, which is not bad for me.
Edit: According to.... http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire_sizing.html you shouldn't be fitting 23mm tyres to the standard rims which are 622x17. I have 28mm tyres on the original rims, the 23mm tyres are fitted to a pair of Shimano RS20s that I have.
ACS
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As an owner of a Tricoss and having spent many an hour researching my next bike I find myself agreeing with many of the views expressed. Like yourself I do not think I will find my name published in the results section of 'the comic' but I would like to get over the occasional hill without grovelling in gutter.
Being about 10kg overweight, I feel that the purchase of a lighter bike to compensate for my indulgences is taking the pi$$, so getting rid of the lard comes first.
However, I feel that the Tricross is best describe as ’stately’ and has a poor rating when to comes to nipping out on a nice day for a quick blast. My solution an 1980’s, 531c road bike, 105, 14 speed, down tube shifters, yes the paint is a bit tatty and I had to source a second set of wheels because the ones that came with it where knackered but the fun factor is great about 2 inches of extra grin when I take it out. Cost £200 in total. Has some credibility from being “so retro,” it’s dirt cheap to maintain, evilbay is full of bits and when it comes time to change the group set I may turn it into a single speed and use it to replace my Sirrus which I commute on.
New is nice, very nice, but sometimes not the only option.
Being about 10kg overweight, I feel that the purchase of a lighter bike to compensate for my indulgences is taking the pi$$, so getting rid of the lard comes first.
However, I feel that the Tricross is best describe as ’stately’ and has a poor rating when to comes to nipping out on a nice day for a quick blast. My solution an 1980’s, 531c road bike, 105, 14 speed, down tube shifters, yes the paint is a bit tatty and I had to source a second set of wheels because the ones that came with it where knackered but the fun factor is great about 2 inches of extra grin when I take it out. Cost £200 in total. Has some credibility from being “so retro,” it’s dirt cheap to maintain, evilbay is full of bits and when it comes time to change the group set I may turn it into a single speed and use it to replace my Sirrus which I commute on.
New is nice, very nice, but sometimes not the only option.
bennydorano
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I recently upgraded to a Secteur Elite from a hyrid and tbh I'm sorry I did. Not sure what's going on as I seem to be slower on the Secteur than the hybrid, which is plainly not right. Have already changed the pedals, fipped the handlebars and changed the cassette (well, my LBS did) - back wheel wasbuckled to. I think the relaxed riding position is the main culprit, wth the hybrid I seemed to be on top fo the pedals, now I'm attackin from the rear too much (oh er missus).
when i was upgrading from the Allez elite, i took out a Secteur Elite and was really dissapointed.
it felt heavier than the allez and not as agile.
Then I took out a TREK madone and it was love at first ride.
I suggest ride a few and choose the one you like
it felt heavier than the allez and not as agile.
Then I took out a TREK madone and it was love at first ride.
I suggest ride a few and choose the one you like
Isn't it meant to be like that, though? The Allez has "race"-styled geometry, the Secteur is more relaxed sportive-style geometry.
That doesn't make it a bad bike, though (as it is a long way from that), just more realistic for those who don't race, either for real or in their imagination.
Andrew_P
In between here and there
Please keep posting this kind of stuff, I keep going to buy a 1200-1500 road carbon and keep just holding back. So I put on some slicker tyres on to my Hybrid on the basis if it was quicker I might just flassh the cash, and still it didn't improve my time in fact the net benefit was a much more bumpier ride!The Roubaix
Do you think that's completely accurate, though, Jimbo? On the Secteur, I've no issues riding in amongst the urban traffic and I can accelerate and keep up with most traffic in town and between the lights. On the MTB, for instance (20 years old unsuspended and with road tyres and probably 4-5kg heavier), whilst my average on a longer run isn't dissimilar, over a 500m "sprint" I'm not as fast so I generally stick to the bike paths on that one.
As for 1kg, I'm sure I've launched a Mersey Trout bigger than that.
Do you think that's completely accurate, though, Jimbo? On the Secteur, I've no issues riding in amongst the urban traffic and I can accelerate and keep up with most traffic in town and between the lights. On the MTB, for instance (20 years old unsuspended and with road tyres and probably 4-5kg heavier), whilst my average on a longer run isn't dissimilar, over a 500m "sprint" I'm not as fast so I generally stick to the bike paths on that one.
As for 1kg, I'm sure I've launched a Mersey Trout bigger than that.
I thought we were talking Allez vs Secteur?
Well, the thread was originally about the Tricross against the Secteur, so I wasn't sure how far we'd wandered.
I've tried an Allez and I didn't feel it worked for me. The bars were lower, the top tube shorter, the position generally felt more hunched and designed for putting down power. That doesn't make the Allez a bad bike, which is what I felt Philk suggested of the Secteur, just aimed for a different rider's needs.
Would I feel the difference over 40 miles? Well, yes, I did notice it over a shorter distance. I'd still, happily, ride the Allez but I'd be doing so knowing that it wasn't what I wanted to spend my money on.
I had been riding around at home on an old 531 sports bike by an unknown maker, a Peugeot PX10LE 531 and another cheap sports bike.
I hired an Allez in San Francisco and it was marvellous.
I came home, junked the 531 sports bike and the other cheap sports bike and bought an SWorks.
The next time I went to San Fran', I hired an Allez again and rode down the 82 El Camino Real all the way to Morgan Hill whare Spesh has their HQ. 130 miles round trip and it was a pure doddle. The highest elevation of the entire trip was 155 feet, and that was approaching Morgan Hill from San Jose.
What I did tho' the afternoon before the ride, was set up the bike in the rental shop with a tape measure and printed out notes I took with me. I swapped the OE stem ( 100mm ) for a 110mm stem off another bike they had in bits, which was a bit of luck.
If that has any relevance, Jimbo, it is that the S-Works / Allez suits you just as the Secteur / Roubaix suits me. I'm happy that you've found a bike that you like. Just as I did.
Maybe it is interesting, or confusing, in that you previously suggested that "someone who only rides a few hundred miles a week" wouldn't notice the difference in the geometry, but you felt it important enough to take the measurements and make geometry adjustments for just one ride.
Maybe it is interesting, or confusing, in that you previously suggested that "someone who only rides a few hundred miles a week" wouldn't notice the difference in the geometry, but you felt it important enough to take the measurements and make geometry adjustments for just one ride.
