Pro Tour Punditry
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Track racing, Rio 2016 **spoilers**
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deptfordmarmoset
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Tonight's events. I haven't got a live stream link yet.
20:00 - 20:38 Women's Sprint Qualifying
20:40 - 21:02 Men's Omnium Scratch Race 1\6
21:04 - 22:51 Men's Sprint Finals
21:12 - 21:40 Women's Sprint 1/16 Finals
21:50 - 22:47 Men's Omnium Individual Pursuit 2\6
23:15 - 23:33 Men's Omnium Elimination Race 3\6
20:00 - 20:38 Women's Sprint Qualifying
20:40 - 21:02 Men's Omnium Scratch Race 1\6
21:04 - 22:51 Men's Sprint Finals
21:12 - 21:40 Women's Sprint 1/16 Finals
21:50 - 22:47 Men's Omnium Individual Pursuit 2\6
23:15 - 23:33 Men's Omnium Elimination Race 3\6
HF2300
Insanity Prawn Boy
Link appears to be http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36800391
No morning (afternoon for us) session today, it seems. Looking forward to James and Marchant going in the sprint; I think James will be buoyed up by her silver, though they've got some stiff competition. And the last race, I like a good Devil.
coffeejo
Ælfrēd
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Typical. It's the one day I've not got anything planned and was looking forward to an afternoon in front of the TV. I might have to do some housework instead.
deptfordmarmoset
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Hard to tell from his TdF performance. He was in good form, was sprinting longer than he used to and, with something to prove, will have trained hard for his events. The track's a different matter though. By no means a banker but a good chance, I'd guess.
Just walking myself through the different 'disciplines' in the Omnium and my thoughts would be:
1) Scratch race - Cav has to be in with a chance so top 3/win or if a fast race, then he could be as low as 10 or worse
2) Individual Pursuit - not Cav's strongest but he will have done a lot of pursuit training to try and race in the team pursuit and although a different skill set, it is still a pursuit so top 5
3) The (brilliant) Elimination race - again top 3 here simply due to his ability to explode high watts over short periods even when knackered
4) TT - 1km is short enough for Cav to top 5 again here but this one may trip him up? He is after all more of a racer than a disciplined TT'er?
5) Flying Lap - top 3? Or a win? 250m is not far off his perfect distance for his aero and sprint?
6) Points race - he is bu66ered! I think by here, he will be leading or top 3. This will 'encourage' the whole field to effectively mark him out of contention. If he tries anything, he will be shut down. He won't chase everything as I expect a fast pace generally to stifle too many attacks and 'laps'. Having said that, didn't he steal a march in a 'recent' Madison?? Despite being marked 'out of contention'?
Anyway, that's my prediction and I will take great pleasure in eating my hat when my punditry is shown up for what it is - nonsense
1) Scratch race - Cav has to be in with a chance so top 3/win or if a fast race, then he could be as low as 10 or worse
2) Individual Pursuit - not Cav's strongest but he will have done a lot of pursuit training to try and race in the team pursuit and although a different skill set, it is still a pursuit so top 5
3) The (brilliant) Elimination race - again top 3 here simply due to his ability to explode high watts over short periods even when knackered
4) TT - 1km is short enough for Cav to top 5 again here but this one may trip him up? He is after all more of a racer than a disciplined TT'er?
5) Flying Lap - top 3? Or a win? 250m is not far off his perfect distance for his aero and sprint?
6) Points race - he is bu66ered! I think by here, he will be leading or top 3. This will 'encourage' the whole field to effectively mark him out of contention. If he tries anything, he will be shut down. He won't chase everything as I expect a fast pace generally to stifle too many attacks and 'laps'. Having said that, didn't he steal a march in a 'recent' Madison?? Despite being marked 'out of contention'?
Anyway, that's my prediction and I will take great pleasure in eating my hat when my punditry is shown up for what it is - nonsense
smutchin
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He's not one of the favourites and is up against people who specialise in this event - Gaviria is world champion (Cav finished 6th in March), O'Shea and Boudat are former world champions, and Hansen was 2012 gold winner.
His best event in March was the elimination race, where he finished second to Gaviria.
oldroadman
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I think you may be simply seeing the extra wide security straps. Usual clipless pedals, but with the wattage and extreme efforts the straps hold everything in place.
smutchin
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As I'm completely clueless, I've looked at his results from the Worlds in March...
6th. No idea of the details of the race.
You're not wrong there - he was 13th in March, 8.4 seconds down on the winner (Gaviria)
3) The (brilliant) Elimination race - again top 3 here simply due to his ability to explode high watts over short periods even when knackered
Sounds about right. He was 2nd in March.
12th. Only 2 seconds in it but that's a big margin over the distance.
4th - less than one tenth of a second behind the winner, Viviani.
7th on 25 points, winner got 55 points. Hardest one to predict, I guess.
However, I presume he's been working on this since March, so those results are probably meaningless. Will be very interesting to watch him anyway.
oldroadman
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The problem now with the omnium is that all the points gained in the points race count, which completely changes the focus of the whole event. It matters not if you are 15-20 points down, if you are able to take a lap in the points race (20) and at the same time pick up sprints along the way. The emphasis has swung very much in favour of the endurance riders and away from sprinters. While I think an elimination race is good entertainment, it can be a lottery and it has no place in a world or Olympic event.
Dayvo
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Aye it was the same night you asked me "Who's the tosser wearing the rainbow jersey?"Did she? Well, none of her charm/skill/success rubbed off on me.
Dayvo
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Aye it was the same night you asked me "Who's the tosser wearing the rainbow jersey?"
Think I said 'who's the ginga in the rainbow jersey.' Same thing, I suppose.
HF2300
Insanity Prawn Boy
Beeb will be panicking now. James and Marchant, Cav, Kenny and Skinner in the cycling, Whitlock and Smith in the gymnastics in the gymnastics, Murray in the tennis, Rose in the golf, all on at the same time. I suspect we can look forward to a lot of confused channel hopping tonight.
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