Tour de France is looking pretty good for 2011

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Veteran
Location
Perth
Route is announced and on the website. They've shaken up the points and mountains jersey scoring too!

• 10 flat stages,
• 6 mountain stages and 4 summit finishes,
• 1 individual time-trial stage (41 km).
• 1 team time-trial stage (23 km).
• le Galibier climbed twice,
• ADH and Tourmalet included
• 2 rest days,
• 23 level 2, 1 or highest level mountain passes or summit finishes,
• no bonuses will be awarded during the intermediate sprints and stage finishes.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
Interesting. 4 summit finishes, tailor-made for Bertie - oh, hang on!

The ending could be a cliff hanger though with AdH followed by an ITT.
 

raindog

er.....
Location
France
Reckon I'll have to nip up and watch the St Flour stage. I'll take the bike with me and ride over to the last climb or something. Can't wait. :biggrin:

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lukesdad

Guest
Could be a long weekend to Brittany
Think you could be right.
 

Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
Location
Odawa
The most important thing, to my mind, are the changes to the jerseys. I like the fact that mountain finishes will get more credit related to intermediate mountains in the KoM competition, but I am not so sure about the changes to the Green jersey: what they've done is got rid of all intermediate sprints except one, but they've made that one worth 20 points (with points for a lot of riders below). If these intermediates come deep into stages which are hilly stages, then this is going count against the out-and-out sprinters. What they should have done is gone back to the system of having a points jersey that was about consistent finishing and a separate sprints classification etc. based on intermediate sprints.
 

Foghat

Freight-train-groove-rider
When I saw 'Serre Chevalier', I thought "Great - the Col de Granon's making its second appearance after 24 years". Sadly not, though, it just seems to be referenced as the nearest settlement-that's-larger-than-a-village to the (17 miles distant) Galibier-summit stage finish - would be nice to see the Granon again, as it's a fair bit tougher than Alpe d'Huez.
 

Skip Madness

New Member
It's an absolute abortion of a route. Apparently designed to make us pine for the 2009 route. Jesus.

The two big Pyrenean stages are very good, especially Luz-Ardiden, I'll give them that. The Alps however, are a disgrace. Pramartino (the only mountain stage to have a descent to the finish...) is a nice little climb but the rest of that stage is too easy to make attacks significantly biting. Agnello and Izoard are an excellent double totally ruined by the false flat leading up to the Galibier (and seriously, what is the point of a mountain-top finish there?). Likewise, there'll be no serious attacks from afar on the road to Alpe d'Huez thanks to the flat section between the Galibier and the Alpe. Maybe if there was another climb before the Galibier it would be better, but it's just poorly planned.

41km of individual time trial? Even adding on 23km of team time trial, that paltry distance against the clock is the perfect ingredient for ruining a Tour. No worries about Andy Schleck and Joaquin Rodríguez finding themselves three minutes down going into the mountains thanks to an early ITT (with the prospect of losing another three minutes later in another ITT later on and so needing to attack as much as possible). Instead every mountain stage can come down to attacks in the last five kilometres safe in the knowledge that it ought to be enough to distance Evans and Menchov. And what's the incentive to attack from afar anyway if riders who do get away on, say, the Izoard or Télégraphe-Galibier know that they'll quite probably get dragged back on the flat sections before the last climb of the day? YouTube cycling ahoy.

Well, like I said, Luz-Ardiden ought to be good. Plateau de Beille, too. What's the deal there? This is meant to be the centenary celebration of the Alps, yet the two Queen stages come in the Pyrenees.

shoot, shoot route.
 

Skip Madness

New Member
When I saw 'Serre Chevalier', I thought "Great - the Col de Granon's making its second appearance after 24 years". Sadly not, though, it just seems to be referenced as the nearest settlement-that's-larger-than-a-village to the (17 miles distant) Galibier-summit stage finish - would be nice to see the Granon again, as it's a fair bit tougher than Alpe d'Huez.
Absolutely. That is what celebrating the Alps should be about - logical uses of the great mountains on offer, not just having finishes on the Galibier and the Alpe because they're the most famous mountains. If the stage from Modane to Alpe d'Huez finished on the Granon instead, that would eliminate 10-15km of false flat between the climbs, making speculative attacks from distance more worthwhile. And even if they didn't materialise, as you say it's a tougher climb than the Alpe and a more logical stage finish in that region. And what better way to celebrate the Alps than by returning to the highest ever Tour MTF, rather than ham-fistedly creating a new one at the Galibier?

As well as going Modane to Granon instead of Modane to Alpe d'Huez, I'd change the previous stage, too. Start in Cuneo instead of Pinerolo, then run Sampeyre, Agnello and Izoard and finish on the little cobbled uphill in Briançon. The Sampeyre and Agnello would burn up the field, leaving the Izoard as the place where the real attacking would take place. Then you have a thrilling descent and the short and exciting final climb up through Briançon.
 

lukesdad

Guest
Could this be down to media pressure I wonder. Their slots are getting smaller, They want the bunch together as much as Possible and the action to kick off in that last Hour. As that seems to be the content of their highlights programme at prime viewing time. Mmmm....
 
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