Peter Salt
Bittersweet
- Location
- Yorkshire, UK
Jakobsen made the time cut by 18 seconds today 
Tour de France 2022 with SPOILERS
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AndyRM
XOXO
- Location
- North Shields
Just catching up on yesterday's stage, some ride by the top 3. This race ain't over!
Anyone else having a weird issue with the ITV Player? Every time I finished an ad break it would think I'd finished the show and I'd have to scroll through to where I'd actually left off. Not the end of the world, but quite annoying.
Anyone else having a weird issue with the ITV Player? Every time I finished an ad break it would think I'd finished the show and I'd have to scroll through to where I'd actually left off. Not the end of the world, but quite annoying.
Beebo
Firm and Fruity
- Location
- Hexleybeef
If McNulty pulls another world class performance out of the hat today, then we can start to get suspicious.
He was totally tanked at the end. He lost over 30s in the final 400m. It just shows the level these two are at, day in day out.
He was totally tanked at the end. He lost over 30s in the final 400m. It just shows the level these two are at, day in day out.
AndyRM
XOXO
- Location
- North Shields
I feel the same way. Like, the commentators were banging on about how well he was doing and I'm just sat there thinking "Hmmm..."
It's so frustrating that a sport I love has such a chequered history. It's not like I didn't know before getting into it, but it can be a bit much at times.
T4tomo
Legendary Member
So are we saying bike technology advances have offset the effects of EPO and blood transfusions?
Adam4868
Guru
A lot of the stages are shorter and we have over 20 years of training, equipment and nutrition progress.Thats without the tech of bikes and power meters etc.It's been a great tour.Enjoy it.
Doping thread that way ⬆️⬆️
Really it's not for this thread....
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Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
Personally I'm just chilling out and enjoying the racing. If some actual evidence emerges in future about any rider I'll nod and say "I always thought s/he was a bad 'un."
T4tomo
Legendary Member
wheres the handbag emoji
yes its a cracking tour and I am enjoying it.
...but if we are comparing 1997 and current day times, especially Marco Pantani, Jan Ullrich and Richard Virenque, then it is a very well documented fact that all had !assistance!. I wasn't suggesting that todays riders have, you seem to invented that inference.
Adam4868
Guru
Apologies....but most of the posts after the great stage yesterday seem to be 'are they for real'wheres the handbag emoji
yes its a cracking tour and I am enjoying it.
...but if we are comparing 1997 and current day times, especially Marco Pantani, Jan Ullrich and Richard Virenque, then it is a very well documented fact that all had !assistance!. I wasn't suggesting that todays riders have, you seem to invented that inference.
I can't be arsed with the insinuations to the doping side of it.
Right back to the thread of the Tour....Pogis going to do a Froome 2018 today isn't he, not a Landis ! 🙄
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T4tomo
Legendary Member
He's certainly going to try something like that, he wont be able to pull back 2mins plus in the TT.
Vin has proven hard to shake off so far though, and unlike stage whatever when Vin gained his time, when Pog felt he had to chase both Rog and Vin, Vin can ignore anyone other than Pog (unless G gets miles up the road and threatens both of them, but that's very unlikely).
To gain enough, it probably needs a big attack on the Spandelles, as Hautacam is only really proper steep on the last 6-7km. I don't think UAE have enough options to get someone up the road in a break ahead of Pog & Vin, so the old attack and bridge option isn't there, only a heroic solo effort, which could backfire as Vin is a very decent climber.
let battle commence
Vin has proven hard to shake off so far though, and unlike stage whatever when Vin gained his time, when Pog felt he had to chase both Rog and Vin, Vin can ignore anyone other than Pog (unless G gets miles up the road and threatens both of them, but that's very unlikely).
To gain enough, it probably needs a big attack on the Spandelles, as Hautacam is only really proper steep on the last 6-7km. I don't think UAE have enough options to get someone up the road in a break ahead of Pog & Vin, so the old attack and bridge option isn't there, only a heroic solo effort, which could backfire as Vin is a very decent climber.
let battle commence
Aravis
Putrid Donut
- Location
- Gloucester
Something I don't understand from yesterday: wasn't McNulty's ride more helpful to Vingegaard than to Pogacar? If Pogacar had been the one protecting a lead it would have been absolutely ideal, surely. And who benefits from distancing Thomas?
The man to man battle had to start much earlier. Risky, of course, with that final ramp, but Pogacar isn't interested in second, is he?
The man to man battle had to start much earlier. Risky, of course, with that final ramp, but Pogacar isn't interested in second, is he?
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Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
I guess maybe it would have been a different story if Vingegaard had blown up later on. But he didn't.
matticus
Guru
Anyone who values being on the podium. [Although I don't think that Thomas was much of a factor in UAE's strategy, they're all about the win - but you did ask! ]
T4tomo
Legendary Member
exactly this, it was just an attempt to make it hard enough to drop as many people as they could, whilst not exposing Pog to the front and then attack and see what happens, and as it happens Vin held onto Pogs wheel without too much trouble. Had they not hard, Pog would have been battling with Kuss and WVA too.
Nice playing dead tactics by Pog at the end to get Vin back ahead of him, so he could then unleash his last effort to get 10 secs vs 6sec.
Peter Salt
Bittersweet
- Location
- Yorkshire, UK
Well it's today or never. I'm reluctant to say anything about time gaps in a TT after the events of 2020 but it's highly unlikely that a 2min+ deficit can be clawed back. We will see a proper attack today - there's no other way. A great thing about Pog is that for him it's either 'I win' or 'I don't win' = there is no difference between 2nd, 4th or 8th. So... Will Vingegaard get dropped or will Pog explode? Both? For excitement sake, I hope they get to a point where it's mere seconds separating the two and it's all down to the TT.
