Tour de France 2022 with SPOILERS

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Dogtrousers

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
get well soon rich :okay:

But not too soon. ;)
 

Aravis

Putrid Donut
Location
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Less than 20% of 272 timed grand tours have finished with the second-placed rider within a minute of the leader. The Paris stage is inevitably pretty flat (no mountains near it). The second-placed rider would almost never get into a breakaway on such a flat stage and, even if they managed to, the leader's team and the sprint teams would never let it get to the finish with enough time. There is no point the GC riders contesting a Paris road stage. It would only risk crashes and the race ending in farce.

The closest ever Grand Tour, the 1984 Vuelta, finished with a flat stage into Madrid. As far as I can tell, the finale was left to the sprinters.
Whenever this gets discussed, I always find myself saying that we are guessing as to what would actually happen and we won't know until it does. Sure, the odds are long against making any difference in the end, but the team in second place could still shake things up and make everyone nervous. The last time I remember splits causing actual time differences on the Champs Elysees was in 2008, when Carlos Sastre lost 7 seconds to the second-placed man. It can happen.

The overall winner of the 1985 Vuelta, Eric Caritoux, took the final point-scoring place (15th) on the final sprint stage, suggesting that he was being properly attentive. My recollection from that time is that the second placed rider was expected at least to make a visible effort. I'm not sure who first said Paris should be a procession. Probably Armstrong.
 

Adam4868

Guru
So, back to the race today.
A sprint? One for the break? Or the day when MVDP starts to look lively?
Mvdp has allready said he fancies this one....I've gone with Pidcock 😁
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
80/1 !
Yea Sagan has another stage win at least I think...

Must admit I love the showboating Sagan, his issue nowadays is that there are other guys who can get over the lumps and sprint at the end, so he has more competition on what used to be a nailed on Sagan stage (or a second place, seem to recall he did about 4 2nd places in a row)
WVA, MVDP, Pidcock we think, Hayter possibly has that sort of stage in him, Matthews as ever, so Sagan's chances are diminishing, but if he can get up the road without any of those.....and such break doesnt blow itself apart trying to drop Sagan 'cos they fear his sprint....
 
Must admit I love the showboating Sagan, his issue nowadays is that there are other guys who can get over the lumps and sprint at the end, so he has more competition on what used to be a nailed on Sagan stage (or a second place, seem to recall he did about 4 2nd places in a row)
WVA, MVDP, Pidcock we think, Hayter possibly has that sort of stage in him, Matthews as ever, so Sagan's chances are diminishing, but if he can get up the road without any of those.....and such break doesnt blow itself apart trying to drop Sagan 'cos they fear his sprint....

Yeah, he has too much competition for stage wins, I'd put him 50:50 to get even one this year. But he's gotta be strong for Green, if he gives it a go 👍
One of the sports great characters (now that he's got a wife, and less podium girls to ... "distract" him ... )
 
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