Tour De France 2021 with spoilers
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roadrash
cycle chatterer
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As explained above by @jowwy and @hoopdriver nothing dodgy about the competition. I honestly cant see why you would say that.
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
Losing Ewan was a loss to the points comp, but a double edged sword for DQS because it meant one fewer sprint team to control the breakaways* meaning the likes of Declerq and Alaphilippe had to work so much harder to ensure there even was a bunch sprint for Cavendish to compete in.
I don't buy this "dodgy competion" theory. It's a race and stuff happens. You can't start second guessing all the results with "what ifs". People crash out - it's happened to Cavendish in the past, it's happened to all kinds of riders. That's how things work and always have.
* Edit: And Pog's dominance of the GC has made this even harder because teams whose GC hope has gone out of contention or out of the race have turned their sights on the breakaway/stage win. So sometimes it's been DQS vs The World.
I don't buy this "dodgy competion" theory. It's a race and stuff happens. You can't start second guessing all the results with "what ifs". People crash out - it's happened to Cavendish in the past, it's happened to all kinds of riders. That's how things work and always have.
* Edit: And Pog's dominance of the GC has made this even harder because teams whose GC hope has gone out of contention or out of the race have turned their sights on the breakaway/stage win. So sometimes it's been DQS vs The World.
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The illogical conclusion is that events are cancelled if too many favourites drop out. I mean, it's not really a competition without them is it?
Or perhaps just award a favourite with the win and scrap the competition entirely. Wimbledon Men's Tennis has been cancelled and awarded to Djorkovic (sp?) because he would have won anyway so what's the point...
Or perhaps just award a favourite with the win and scrap the competition entirely. Wimbledon Men's Tennis has been cancelled and awarded to Djorkovic (sp?) because he would have won anyway so what's the point...
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The next sprint stage might be tougher for Cav if other teams seek to take control like DSM did on the last one. With 400m to go Cav looked to be in trouble and if another team had been gathering force then he might not have got pass everyone. Could have the possibility of teams working together to counter DQS but then on the other hand they might just want to say they were there when he got the 35th.
Martinsnos
Über Member
Or a team doesn’t want to be seen as the one that ‘spoilt the party’.
Being a bit naive I was amazed to hear that Merckx paid people to let him win (quite common back in the day apparently).
Hopefully that doesn’t happen now but you hear of teams agreeing to help each other etc, so who knows what goes on?!
hoopdriver
Guru
- Location
- East Sussex
Imagine if you did that in horse racing? I doubt people would be so blasé
cougie uk
Guru
I'm sure it still does for certain races. Wasn't Vino accused of this not that long ago ?
Martinsnos
Über Member
I honestly don’t know. I rely on multiple sources for my information and my memory is rarely one of them!!!
Along with dodgy emails and bank transfer .... allegedly
https://inrng.com/2012/11/vinokourov-kolobnev-race-fixing-cycling/
Cathryn
Legendary Member
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- Marlborough, Wiltshire
So Deceuninck (sp?) have dropped out of sponsorship?
Cathryn
Legendary Member
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- Marlborough, Wiltshire
I see this is posted elsewhere. Soz
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
I hope so too. I actually think it's positive.
But it won't stop me from pointing and laughing if all they manage to do is soften Carapaz up for Vingegaard to attack.
Adam4868
Guru
Better to lose trying/attacking.....
