Tour De France 2021 with spoilers

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T4tomo

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Cav has 4 DQT teammates with him, which makes sense as AlaPip is up the road on his own, so the majority of the others may as well sit with Cav, as they are no help to AlaPip
 

T4tomo

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but tbh no one is going to win the green other than cav, if he stays in the race........so why does it matter to BE if he goes in the break, hes got a 58pt lead over mathews......even today mathews only got 1pt in the intermediate, not exactly pulling up trees is it
on that day the green jersey comp was still quite close, Cav was just up front keeping out of trouble like the pro he is.

re today - cav wouldnt bother to waste energy even trying to get in a break, no point - better focused on keeping with peloton whilst he can and then pace himself in the auto bus. The only aim today is beat the cut off time. He generally doesn't bother with intermediate points if there is a good chance of contesting the final sprint either, but he would on a day that had say a 3km climb upto the line, as he wouldnt have a chance in the final sprint, so get what points he can early.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
The day Cav was off in the break wasn't an alpine stage and there was no chance of him fighting the cutoff. It was a relatively flat stage with a sharp hill at the end. It was also an utterly bonkers stage with MvDP and WvA ripping it up, so not really representataive.

When the non climbers are up against the OTL limit I imagine that the best they can do is keep a constant sustainable effort. And have teammates to help.
 

Boo

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I think I read somewhere back in the thread that more than half of Merckx's stage wins had come from TT's. I'm not saying they're easy, by any means, but even so...

Am I right in thinking that most, if not all, of Cav's stages have been road stages rather than TT's?
 

hoopdriver

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I think I read somewhere back in the thread that more than half of Merckx's stage wins had come from TT's. I'm not saying they're easy, by any means, but even so...

Am I right in thinking that most, if not all, of Cav's stages have been road stages rather than TT's?
All of them, I believe - and bunch sprints at that!
 
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Dogtrousers

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I think I read somewhere back in the thread that more than half of Merckx's stage wins had come from TT's. I'm not saying they're easy, by any means, but even so...

Am I right in thinking that most, if not all, of Cav's stages have been road stages rather than TT's?
I don't think there has ever been any danger of Cav coming close to winning a TT in the Tour :smile:

Mark Cavendish has the most mass finish stage wins with 33 ahead of André Darrigade and André Leducq with 22, François Faber with 19 and Eddy Merckx with 18.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_France_records_and_statistics

But Mercx won all kinds of stuff - sprints, TTs, mountains, you name it.
 
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Dogtrousers

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All of them, I believe - and bunch sprints at that!
I can think of one case where he won that wasn't really a "bunch sprint". It was one of my favourites, in 2013. Cav's first Tour with OPQS. Mega crosswinds and Saxo riding like demons to gain time for Bertie, helped with OPQS riding similarly to distance Kittel. There was so much going on in that stage. It ended up with a one on one sprint between Cav and Sagan.
 

Poacher

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Location
Nottingham
Why are the ITV4 commentators going on about the Col de la Madeleine?
It's higher than Ventoux, and scores of km away!
Confusion because today's route passes la Madeleine (approx. 360m high) on the fairly undemanding road to Bedouin?
 

Dogtrousers

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Why are the ITV4 commentators going on about the Col de la Madeleine?
It's higher than Ventoux, and scores of km away!
Confusion because today's route passes la Madeleine (approx. 360m high) on the fairly undemanding road to Bedouin?
Well, that's what you get with ITV4

The great Carlton Kirby would never make a foolish error like that.
 
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