Tour de France 2017 ***SPOILERS***
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Haha
Not sure that helps anyone understand what your view of the video is.
Fight.The.Power
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Have made it clear already. Page 35 I think - when it happened live. . .
The video you post only starts once Sagan had already caused the incident so thought it was funny in that it was so obviously misleading.
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brommers
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Will they appeal?
roadrash
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thread is only at page 40
Fight.The.Power
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Yes sorry have amended to 35 haha
No, the video quite clearly shows that Sagan did not elbow Cavendish. It should have started some 5 or 10 metres earlier, in which case it would have shown Sagan's change of direction, leaving Cavendish nowhere to go. Sagan was guilty of being reckless. He is pretty clearly not guilty of being malicious by elbowing a fellow rider. He should be punished by having time docked, or whatever, but he did not elbow Cavendish, and he should not have been DQ'd.
Fight.The.Power
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deptfordmarmoset
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I thought Sagan had already made contact with Cavendish before Cav put his head into Sagan and the elbow simply finished off something Sagan had already started, or more diplomatically, caused to start.
Adam4868
Guru
Late to the show as had to avoid social media today and watch the highlights,pesky feckin work ! Gutted for Sagan and Cav,was it deliberate ? Hard to say,sprints are agressive.Weve seen them all at some point ,heat of the moment stuff.Would we be complaining if it had been Bouhanni using his elbows or head as he likes ?.Myself i dont see it as 100% intentional,but its done and after yesterdays high,today its a low for Sagan
I don't disagree with this, except the bit about the elbow finishing it off. Sagan's elbow made no contact with anything or anyone.
Well it's academic now as he's gone but watching it live and watching the various clips all give different impressions. Watching the whole sprint my intial impression was that Cav was going for a gap that wasn't there, he was just a little too late behind Demare as the sprint moved across the road.
To me everybody was swaying about the changing lines. The elbow from Sagan looks bad but it's just instinct and when you have adrenaline coursing through every inch of your body and trying to stay upright at 70kmph it's ridiculous to apply normal standards of logical thinking to the situation. Even the original punishment of docking Sagan 80 points and relegating him to last on the stage was slightly harsh to me, kicking him off the Tour altogether ridiculous, but I suppose not much more so than the instances when commissaires have kicked the likes of Bardet and Nibali off races for sticky bottle holding.
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Greipel thinks it a harsh decision having watched it, he earlier had a dig at Sagan and has now apologised. All on twitter.
Adam4868
Guru
A while ago he was saying he was pissed at Sagan yesterday and today and wouldn't speak to him again.
Credit to him for apologising,there's a lesson in knee jerk reactions.
