Tour de France 2017 ***SPOILERS***

[Viking]

Cav was on Sagans right hand side ?

Yes that's correct - the same side that Sagan's elbow came into play

 

[MichaelO]

They were having a bit of a shouting match in the run up to the incident.
Be interesting to see how it's dealt with. Can't see it being worthy of a DQ

 

[smutchin]

If Kitten doesn't win this I'll buy some Sagan goggles.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/100-speedcraft-tall-sagan-limited-edition-/rp-prod160033

 

[Tynan]

For me, at worse, Sagan is closing a gap that isn't there and he is finishing moving across into, there ws never going to be room for a rider to pass on the outside

And yes, is anyone suggesting that anyone would do that deliberately?

 

[Fight.The.Power]

Do people seriously think Sagan would do that deliberately?

Deliberate or not, sprinters and indeed Cav himself have been penalised for far less in the past.

 

[Lee_M]

For me, at worse, Sagan is closing a gap that isn't there and he is finishing moving across into, there ws never going to be room for a rider to pass on the outside

And yes, is anyone suggesting that anyone would do that deliberately?

Yep, me, Look at the helicopter shot, nothing accidental there

 

[Fight.The.Power]

Cav just said Sagan 'came across' him and 'not a fan of his elbow'

 

[Fight.The.Power]

Is Cav definitely out of Tour?

(sorry no other news source at the mo)

He doesn't know himself at the mo. Needs stitches in a finger but worried that he has done his shoulder. Won't know until hospital has checked him out.

 

[smutchin]

Deliberate or not, sprinters and indeed Cav himself have been penalised for far less in the past.

Sure, and there are definitely grounds for Sagan being held responsible for that crash.

Will be interesting to see what the commissaires say.

 

[Tynan]

Euresport seem more upset about Sagan cutting across initially and supposedly Greipel has made some rude noises about Sagan

I don't know much about this but it seems to me like the sprinters all go mental together and anything goes

 

[Fight.The.Power]

"Sagan removed from 2nd to 115th in stage results. 30 sec penalty. #TDF2017"

 

[uncle_adolph]

Euresport seem more upset about Sagan cutting across initially and supposedly Greipel has made some rude noises about Sagan

I don't know much about this but it seems to me like the sprinters all go mental together and anything goes

Greipel was on the receiving end of Sagan's elbow at an intermediate sprint yesterday and had words with him at the time.

 

[bozmandb9]

It doesn't look right to me. Sprinting is a tough business, but I don't buy the idea that you've got to stick your elbow out like that to keep your balance. There's only one reason for that amount of elbow, and that close the barrier, only one possible outcome, as we saw. And it wasn't that Cav was going for a gap that wasn't there, he was on the right, and everybody moved way across so he ended up in the barrier, with the help of Peter's elbow delivering the coup de grace.

 

[Crackle]

The whole sprint was wild and moving all over the road. Sagan tried to move onto Demare's wheel cutting up Cav in the process, realized then tried to correct but made it worse and had to throw an arm to stay balanced. Sagan's fault.

 

[bozmandb9]

In cycle coaching you learn about the cone of balance, I think that's what it's called. Basically about moving your weight around on the bike. Fractional movement in bodyweight makes an immense difference. Moving elbows or arms, totally and utterly sod all difference (relatively). No way in a million years that elbow was for balance.