Tour de France 2017 ***SPOILERS***

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Tynan

Veteran
Location
e4
How many would you want crash and how many hurt before you considered the corner(s) problematic?

Although what on earth he thought he was doing bunging the front brake on going into that corner
 
How many would you want crash and how many hurt before you considered the corner(s) problematic?

Although what on earth he thought he was doing bunging the front brake on going into that corner
Riders need to ride to conditions; I heard that the Romans complained that the TT stages were very boring on their straight roads so invented corners.
 

Tynan

Veteran
Location
e4
Is there such a thing as a dangerous stage/bend whatever then?

My first viewing of the German shampoo ad made me smile, nice smug delivery of the punchline

Even The Lady Wife sneered at Apple congratulating themselves on having Word on the new Ipad
 

smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
How many would you want crash and how many hurt before you considered the corner(s) problematic?

When I asked Chris Boardman about his 1997 crash, he was pretty clear that he considered it entirely his own fault. I'm sure Valverde would say the same about yesterday.
 
Is there such a thing as a dangerous stage/bend whatever then?

My first viewing of the German shampoo ad made me smile, nice smug delivery of the punchline

Even The Lady Wife sneered at Apple congratulating themselves on having Word on the new Ipad
There was a stage a few years ago where the newly laid tarmac and "something else" contributed to the then leader, Fabian Cancellara, deciding he was the "patron" of the peloton and getting everyone else to ease off - which was met with "how fecking dare he?!" comments from some fans and riders alike. Basically, you can't win one way or t'other, so I usually now just accept whatever happens is what happens. Doesn't stop me whining every now and then tho :laugh:
 
When I asked Chris Boardman about his 1997 crash, he was pretty clear that he considered it entirely his own fault. I'm sure Valverde would say the same about yesterday.
Gilbert said of yesterday's stage just after he had finished "You can win seconds on corners and you can lose everything; I choose to be safe..." or something like that.
 

Tynan

Veteran
Location
e4
anyway, the original point was about the barrier, ie a crash was forseeable but was it ok for a rider to slide a few feet and then hit a metal barrier

and three riders lost on the first short stage?

and the riders spread out that much on the first day because people are being careful
 
anyway, the original point was about the barrier, ie a crash was forseeable but was it ok for a rider to slide a few feet and then hit a metal barrier

and three riders lost on the first short stage?

and the riders spread out that much on the first day because people are being careful
That's racing for you.

edit - who's the 3rd rider? Valverde, Izagirre and ?? Did someone pull out today?
 
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Viking

Senior Member
These tight city courses are always tricky in the wet especially if they've been resurfaced recently and/or had normal traffic on them before the race. I don't see riders crashing as a problem; handling the bike in different conditions is part of the game but the penalty should be time/skin lost, not broken bones. IMHO, there should have been cushioning on that corner given that the conditions made it inevitable that someone would overcook it.
 
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